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Cork / Re: Henry R McIlwain
« on: Wednesday 19 August 15 18:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Gaffy, I have all that.  As far as I know there is nothing more of HRMcI except for a record suggesting he was lost at sea in 1917.  I know he deserted the family from an aunt who was a close relation.

Cork / Henry R McIlwain
« on: Wednesday 19 August 15 17:54 BST (UK)  »
What happened to H R McIlwain, who married Anne F Tarr in Cork City in 1892q2  ? There were 2 sons and 3 daughters 1893-99 before he deserted the family.  He worked at the Haulbowline base in Cork Harbour.

Cork / Tarr - Mulhall marriage 1870
« on: Wednesday 19 August 15 17:49 BST (UK)  »
Any info about (Margaret) Jane Mulhall, who married my gt-grandfather Joseph Tarr at St Ann Shandon, Cork City, in February 1870.  She was a 'minor' but cannot have been much under 21; her father was James Mulhall, a merchant of Audley Place.

Anglesey / Penmon Quarry manager 1875-1880
« on: Monday 03 August 15 09:48 BST (UK)  »
My gt-grandfather C K Liversidge (variously spelt) was manager until he died of typhoid on Boxing Day 1877.  It seems his place was taken by his brother-in-law Henry Young from Liverpool, but in the hiatus the men were not paid, resulting in a dispute.  In Feb.1878 a small coastal ship was damaged while loading a 2-ton limestone block, which led to a court case a year later.

Any information about H.Young's stay in Anglesey would be welcome.  I can't find him anywhere in the 1881 census, when his family was in Wavertree; he died in 1889.

Anglesey / Re: Charles K Liversidge 1841-1877
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 17:30 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks

Anglesey / Re: Charles K Liversidge 1841-1877
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 15:35 BST (UK)  »
Most interesting - do you know any more?  CKL married Mary Emma Young (my gt-grandmother) in 1863.  Her only surviving brother at this date would be Henry Fisher Young 1833-1889, a civil engineer, who would be at least partly qualified to take over temporarily.

Anglesey / Re: Charles K Liversidge 1841-1877
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 12:44 BST (UK)  »
Mass grave a possibility I suppose, that would depend on whether there had been an epidemic?

Kinder L's 'vault' v.unlikely because (a) he died in 1892 and (b) that was in Gainsborough where his daughter's family was settled, and as far as I know Charles had no connection.  Kinder was from Yorkshire but found success as a wine-and-spirit dealer in Liverpool, with a posh house in Wirral.

The bit about Mold freemasons is likely to do with the education of Charles' eldest child, who was at Howells Denbigh.  Widowed mother had to seek support after Charles died, and turned to them as he was an ex-Brother?

Anglesey / Re: Charles K Liversidge 1841-1877
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 11:21 BST (UK)  »
Yes, of course.  I picked up the Masonry reference yesterday.  It's just that I am unable to find where he may be buried, as he died at Quarry Bank Penmon (but not buried there) and his widow and some relatives are in Anfield, Liverpool, but he isn't.  So where?  He was clearly a prominent and popular member of local society - and had been in his previous position near Mold - and from a religious family.

The son mentioned, Charles Percy, was only 7 in 1880.  A younger brother was born at Penmon in March 1878 and named after his dead father, but he died in Liverpool in 1881, soon after his grandfather.  All were in Liverpool at the 1881 census, and it seems unlikely that they would return briefly to Mold (Nannerch) from Penmon for sentimental reasons?

Yes, I wondered about the typhoid.  He died at home, not in a hospital or infirmary.  Any ideas?  Buried at sea?

Anglesey / Charles K Liversidge 1841-1877
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 09:57 BST (UK)  »
Charles was manager of Penmon Quarry who died on Boxing Day 1877, of typhoid according to his death cert., although the family had a vague memory about the lifeboat.  In June 1877 he had been rescued from the tide while fishing near Puffin Island.  His widow returned to her family in Liverpool with 9 children.  Charles is apparently not buried either in Penmon or in Liverpool, so has anyone any other suggestion?
He was not in Penmon long - he had been manager at Hendre Quarry near Mold until late 1875 or early 1876, where he seems to have been popular.

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