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Travelling People / Re: Hurn Herons Hearns Youngs
« on: Saturday 20 February 21 21:53 GMT (UK)  »

 I am trying to locate the Heron tree that is offten wrote about i have seen it on-line several times in different formats, i am d.n.a related to a Heron Lady in this day who was born from the people below i have at present found over three hundred Gipsy related match's in my d.n.a that all hold clues if you take the time to read into them, this Lady who was born a Heron shares with me over eighty d.n.a related match's with other people who all are in or from the Gipsy Family as a whole it covers the whole range of my ancestry as regards the cousin sequence from first to eighth i wish to see how these people below join up to the wider  Boswell and Heron trees, i know there are these Boswell lines that have been the topic of much conversation and research over many years by literally everyone who dips their foot into the vast ocean of genealogy to quote a noted researcher who wrote to me long ago "they have been done to death" truthfully i have several Boswell d.n.a ancestral connection's that spans the globe and unlike the called lines i think and know through researching my own unique d.n.a to me that all the clusters interlink through the mingling of family's as a whole there is no such thing as a distink line, you can make a family look that way by writing in a format that may confuse the natural evolution to the learning's of a persons mind and hoodwink generations into a false belief that a mirage is a actual scene, truthfull a mirage is an actual scene yet is it no more than a Shakespearean wordplay that went on to rock the literal world true the mirage is in front of you so it is true yet to look beyond that which your eyes see is the focus that should and is sort by myself, so in this family below that connects to me and over eighty of my d.n.a match's that span the full range of the Gipsy's like the Lovell's Bucklands Lees and Smith of the well known names that are interspersed throughout my d.n.a in clusters and also names unknown yet they to contain all the noted peoples and family's that are wrote about throughout the history's of the written times of the people known to us in these lands as the Gipsy's, in this Heron family below i find them to be a kind of Mother ship that may be through my own personal d.n.a research well they could turn out to be proof that these family's that cross the cluster sequence and interlink several cluster are a founding family in Britain that then went also across the globe as my own d.n.a shows, there will be several of these founding family's i am sure if a person looks into their d.n.a in an honest manner they will evolve honest thought, you do not have to wring something dry to extract that which you seek, just look at history in whatever tapestry and see beyond the mirage i think there was founding family's and maybe only a few that contained clusters that roamed Europe by looking for founding family's in your d.n.a the way i do you may be able to get closer to these Europeans who themselves came out of older clusters from lands further afield, i am sure i am right in how i am researching my own genealogy through the cousin sequence in my d.n.a, if anyone can put up family trees of these people below i would be grateful, other people who hold far more cousin d.n.a that runs into the thousands may not be able to see through such a stocked yard, so by myself in being a person who is at the end of his line and also not noted in any way by the scholars of this day, for truthfully to i am bound to no man and kneel before no one, i could never sell myself out for the want of perage adulation never mind to cast my eyes to the strangers gaze in the hope of being loved, only a fool from the thought and times of long ago who chanced and danced around their local village to the drum beat of the jingled three pointed belled hat dofted from their low held head in admiration to their masters bidding and who then craved and longed for a crown that could never unfree the unchained yet the belled jingled tongue suited more their station in life in this day as also the past, it is far easier for the truth to appear in front of my own eyes, others may not see things but i tell the truth the Stanley's in my own d.n.a are also a interlinking founding cluster, this is only the truth that i have found at these present times you can see below how the Young's evolve out of the Herons in this tree, i have several Young's in my d.n.a in closer times than the Herons yet the Herons hold more family interlinking names than the Young's, to me this is evidence to which i have wrote of here, all you have to do is look with honest eyes


Clones Heron 1918–1973 r.i.p
came out of Amos Heron and Elsie Bosswell  Amos Heron came out of William Heron it is not shown on the free bits who Williams Mother and Father were, Elsie Bosswell came out of William Heron and Jane Boswell
no more is shown freely on this line, this is my dna match's Fathers line of descent, on the Mothers line it starts with Edith Pattison
1928–2011 r.i.p who came out of a male who's name is just shown as private, her Mother was Martha Young, the unknown male came out of Helen Welch and Thomas Pattison, Martha Young came out of  Rhoda Boswell and Noah Heron, no more is shown on this tree, i could write to my dna Cousin match but i do not really do that kind of thing, i just like to learn of things in my own way 

Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Sunday 07 February 21 07:24 GMT (UK)  »
 Hi Jane
I received another distant Cousin match that I have been trying to learn from it looks like their last name is the Montague's (Buckingham Montague) the person who is stated as a long far cousin to me is male and at a first glance a person would think such a name may not be related to the Gipsy's of old, this Montague gives nothing away in their profile that they let you see yet if you click onto who you both share dna with seven names come up, all seven are of the Gipsy's, Ancestry says they are in the  fourth cousin Column in a the 4th–6th Cousin  range at a long shot they say some could go as high as a third cousin to be truthful I do not understand what they are telling me, I think in my own mind cousins related through old connection's may come from a sideways longshot that may be closer than a straight back the line as in how we all think of genealogy, this to may reverse itself, anyway the (Buckingham Montague) is dna related to two Smith Lady's a Clayton a male Pearce a female Crabtree a male Davies and a female Byrne all these seven are stated as dna related to me and they all have many shared match's with me in clusters of several Gipsy names from the past, I do not share a single none Gipsy link with any of these dna matches, through learning this way I know Ancestry are on to a truth for if I look through the many dna links on my Fathers line they are straight from Irelands lands of Green they do not interlink with my cousin dna links from my Mothers side, I do not know how Ancestry know such things but they must be on to something, well these seven dna matches that me and Montague share as many connecting dna Gipsy related dna match links there is not a single crossover to the other clusters like I have found that do not hold a single name or link with the Gipsy's, so Montague is related to the Davies man and I am related to him to yet when I click on his profile he does not give much away unless you write to him, but the man Davies does not hide his dna links that is the same as mine and we now share twenty seven dna cousin matches so you can see there is dna left between us both, we both now share dna of people named Bailey Gray Young Stanley Jeffery and big Jack is back with is massive dna names of old infact all twenty seven same dna links are massive in the names they hold like the great Smiths but back to Montague from the long cousin link and this now is where I am searching for an answer.

In short Montague keeps his powder dry yet his back is not to the wall for I see all our shared dna, one is the person known as Byrne a Lady at that, now she lets me see that she is indeed from the Davies like the Davies above they both share many Gipsy dna links through Family names with me whether this is backways or sideways I do not know, well look at Byrne ancestor's straight down the line solid Davies on both sides theirs Wisdom's on both her Fathers side and her Mothers side and a few Cornelius Davies and evan a Cornelius Stephens who weds cinnamenta smith-1880–1965 and what about one legged Aaron Smith 1788–1859, and theirs Locke's to and the Lees, theres many more but what I would like to learn about is why is it stated on Bryn's Family tree that Mizzeley Davis weds Cornelius Jame's Davies and that Mizzeley Mother and Father were Mizzeley Harrison and W.H. Davies.

Now this is the great bit for remember when I said only the links in shared dna show up from the sixth to first in the cousin range as in shared dna, well that's why the older ones hold more clues they may be older and the amount of dna less but all cousins are cousins so now I find a long cousin link in the far range that they call distant right at the end of Ancestry's knowledge in this day they name it as 5th–8th Cousin this is someone who must live over a mountain and out of sight, but their voice Carry's through the canyon and I still hear it, now this male far cousin of mine is named Wisdom as in his first name I will not tell you his last name for I do not think you can do that, anyway back to Mizzeley Davis who weds Cornelius Jame's Davies and Mizzeley Mother and Father were Mizzeley Harrison and W.H. Davies on Bryn's tree well now on Wisdom's tree Mizzeley Davis is down as being Mizzley Winter and she comes out of the Winters not the Harrisons or Davies it just says Winter it's the same people yet different names, I am dna related to the Winters to, I try to understand about all theses names Ancestry send me, as in what does it all meen, in real truth, it was easier when my Mother said we were related to the Holmes and the Smiths, and I have received more dna matches linking me to the European Gipsy's that Ancestry say I have dna with, two more popped up that's about five now, the Davies I think are from the South near the Wales way and Wisdom is from Dudley Staffordshire, i have more Davies dna matches to and more Smiths, I do wonder about things, I don't evan have a tree, to be truthful I don't evan know who is who, people have showed me things from the census records but are they accurate, just imagine if the censuses are wrong, it only takes one mistake or falseness and  everythings a lie, thank you again for putting up the photos about your relatives, take care.
michael x


Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Tuesday 26 January 21 20:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jane

Thank you again for putting up the photos, thank you for showing them, I like to learn of the past Peoples and show them the greatest respect the Deadmans are indeed a great Gipsy Family I have been lucky to learn of them and will never forget them, you said you are related through Family ties with the Winter Family also, well I found that report that showed they were together in that article I put up a few pages back, now do you remember where Roy Deadman was living at Ruseley, well look who's living there also in the same timescale in the article below, I do not know what you may find of such things, i may have seen things wrong but there must be an answer

Friday 18 April 1958
 Lichfield Mercury

 ………Before the court was Andrew Winters. of no fixed abode, who denied driving the van whilst under the influence of drink and assaulting a policeman. The Magistrates found the case proved, and Winters was ordered to pay £2O with 9s. costs.

Saturday 19 January 1957
 Rugeley Times

Crowd gathered when men fought in the Market Square Two men who were seen by a police-constable fighting in the Market Square........ on Thursday charged with disorderly behaviour. Raymond Jones (23), of 63, Michael's Road, Brereton, and Andrew Winters (3O), of Alma Dene. Garden Drive, Ruseley, admitted the offence......... 

This below is the report showing the same address, its maybe a coincidence but its worth looking at.

Saturday 20 September 1958
 Rugeley Times

 Horse dealer who became a salesman The death occurred on Tuesday of Mr. Roy Deadman. of Alma Dene. Garden Drive, Rugeley. Mr. Deadman, who was 71, was well known in the town. In his younger days he was like his father and grandfather before him, a horse dealer.

I showed you one of these but by looking for more reports you conbine them all together and a bigger picture comes to be known

Saturday 21 June 1856
  Leicestershire Mercury

Births, Marriages, and Deaths.
On the 16th inst., at Melton Mowbray, Mr. Doriah Deadman, of the Staffordshire Potteries, to Sarah Smith, of Melton

Saturday 04 October 1856
  Leicester Chronicle

— On the 30th ult, of small pox, aged 25, Sarah Deadman. Deceased, a gipsy, had only been married three months.

Thursday 09 October 1856
   Nottinghamshire Guardian

also, on the 30th, aged 25, Sarah, wife of Mr. Doriah Deadman. 

I just put these small extracs on for there are many with more information in to read, I just like to learn everything, I think these maybe are the Deadmans we talk about but I could be wrong

Friday 01 February 1952
  Staffordshire Advertiser

CARPETS CARPETS CARPETS GREAT ONE DAY SALE THURSDAY NEXT. FEBRUARY 5th. 10-30 to 4-30 THREE TUNS. GAOLGATE STREET, STAFFORD CARPETS : RUGS : Axminster, Wilton, Belgium, Italian and Velvet Pile Special Offer of 5 Top-grade Indian Carpets, We supply the CHEAPEST CARPETS in the MIDLANDS, so buy today and save pounds tomorrow Some of the Goods are Slighty Soiled and will be at Deadman, London Road. Derby. 

 Friday 20 March 1953
   Ripley and Heanor News and Ilkeston Division Free Press

    T. and S. Deadman. Rugby Street, Off London Road, Derby. ...

 Saturday 27 November 1954
  Stapleford & Sandiacre News

 TO-DAY to save Pounds To-morrow SALE ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 27 From 10.30 a.m. to 4.30 p.m., at THE ZION HALL, LONG EATON R DEADMAN, London Road. Derby. Licence No. NI.A7...

Friday 09 September 1955
  Ripley and Heanor News and Ilkeston Division Free Press

CARPETS! GREAT Clearance Sale OF CARPETS, RUGS AND STAIR CARPETS In all makes and sizes. At the METHODIST CHURCH HALL, NOTTINGHAM ROAD, ALFRETON. On FRIDAY, SEPT. 16th, 10 to 4 p.m. R. DEADMAN 2, New Park Street, Leicester. 

I found a few more reports I hope they maybe of help to you
Wednesday 27 February 1963
  Leicester Evening Mail

  Dealer found dead at Markfield A CARAVAN dweller. Mr. William Elliott 49. general dealer. was found hanging dead in a tree at Markfleld yesterday. Mr. Elliott had been missing from his caravan for several hours and when he was found a search for him was in progress. His body was discovered by Mr. James Deadman away fram his caravan............... on land attached to Thrustle Bush Farm………………. 

Wednesday 02 October 1963
  Leicester Evening Mail

while the police were dealing with a road accident at Coalville .............and eventually struck one of the officers, was fined at Coalville. He is James Deadman 22, a lorry driver, who pleaded guilty to assaulting a policeman in the execution of his duty and also to causing damage to windows in a cell at  Coalville police station.   In a separate case. Deadman said to live in a caravan…………………   

Thany you again for all the photos you put on and the words you have spoken i will try and see if i can find other things that may be of help to you .......from michael x

Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Sunday 24 January 21 08:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jane
They are great photos you put up on the previous page, thank you for showing them, thank you very much, the Lady on the first one has the Eyes of the Smiths from my way, Jane Smith said we was long Cousins, she told me this when we was young, she also had them deep ridge eyes, I may be looking at things wrong but I just thought I would tell you.       

I was looking on my d.n.a matches and a Lady came up as sharing d.n.a with me, her first name is Thelma she is related to many Gipsies its just I was looking for you to try and find answers to what I am finding out, its probably more for me really but you may learn somethings also, well me and Thelma are long Cousins they say from the olden times she has many of the old Family Gipsy names that are known of,  a very Rich history runs through the Gipsy Lady known as Thelma, well from the free bits that she lets me see well there is a Deadman Smith connection on one side of her tree, read this below to try and follow what I say, I was thinking it could be your Relatives, it could be Annie wed to Jack from your photos that you put up on the previous page.

Annie Jane Deadman wed John / Jack Smith their Daughter was Sarah Sally Smith 1888 1941 she wed George Napolian Gray 1755 1939 their Daughter was Amelia Gray 1912 1991 George Napolian Grays Mother and Father were Elias Gray and Amelia Heron all this is on one side of Thelma's Family tree, if you look on the other side of her tree there is a Louisa Butler wed to a Samual Smith who went on to have a Son Samuel Smith 1873 1945 he wed Rhoda Smith 1872 1950 Rhoda's Mam and Dad was Sydney Smith and Fiansey Smith another set of Old Parents stems down from a fighting man by the look of him known as Orlando (Landor) Smith, if you follow this line down to today the Rodgersons who wed to these Smiths who then wed back to the Smiths who come down from the Smiths and Butlers all on Thelma's one line, the latest Rodgerson and Smiths then wed into the latest Thelma's other line Through the Grays right back to Deadman Heron Smiths, it sounds complicated but when your looking at it in a tree format its really quite easy to understand, also if i was reading right on the map on the same Cousin d.n.a to me is  names of other Deadmans from the South.

William Deadman
Baptised : Rodmell, Sussex

Richard Dedman
Rodmell, Sussex

 I just wanted to show you these litle reports below, when i trawl through thousands of reports i find things of interest, i also i find vast amounts of general information, offten about the Gipsy Family's as a whole, offten to i read of the histories of everything by mear chance, when i was looking for your relatives the Deadmans i also read many records that evan though they were unconnected to the research i was doing well i still found they educated me in the histories of life these below are just a few that i found why i was trying my best to help you, i hope you to enjoy researching as much as i do

Thursday 12 July 1917

  A GIPSY'S FIRE. Fiance Penfold, of no fixed address, was charged with making a fire within 50 feet of the centre of the Highway at Deadman's Grave, in the parish of Sancreed, 15th June. P.S. Mitchell 

Monday 18 May 1789
  Reading Mercury

Whereas  I Lydia Deadman, wife of James Deadman labourer, of Tadley, did wilfully and maliciously scandalize the said Jon Kimber, basket maker of Tadley aforesaid, on the 16th of April last and several other times prejudice his character, which I the said Lydia Deadman do acknowledge myself to be a lying, false, scandalous and promise never to scandalize the said Jon Kimber, or any his family any more, under the penalty of five pounds.The mark X of Lydia Deadman.

Tuesday 19 November 1839
 Morning Post

 EXTENSIVE EXHXUMAIATION OF HUMAN BONES.-For the last few days much curiosity has been excited in the neighbourhood of Old Brentford in consequence of the discovery of a large quantity of human bones in an extraordinary state of preservation, as was also the hair. The spot, it is said by some of the inhabitants, used formerly to be called Deadmen's Graves, and there is a tradition extant in the town that during the great plague in London a female called Moll Ransom used to drive a cart on which she sat, through the streets, crying Bring out your dead; that she brought down hundreds of bodies, which were interred in heaps in the ground in question Information of the  finding of the bones has been forwarded to Mr. Wakley, the coroner, but it is not supposed he will consider it necessary to hold an inquest.

 And this one below is of great interest for i never have known of Gipsies named Gentle so then i just chansed on this report below then did a d.n.a direct search and no matches came up, then i did a related match search meening if any of my direct d.n.a matches had a Family named Gentle then this would show up, so i clicked on all my d.n.a matches to see if any had the Gentle Family in their tree and guess who came up, just two, one was you, and the other Thelma from above, how mad is that

Saturday 12 December 1863
 Hereford Times

  Wednesday.—Before the Rev. James Davies. Obstructing the Highway. William Gentle, licensed hawker and owner of one of those large caravans carrying profusion of brushes, brooms, and variety of other articles, was charged 

Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 13:59 GMT (UK)  »
Tuesday 24 January 1905
   Leeds Mercury


Three hawkers, named Ambrose Burnside, Benjamin Burnside, and Jack Wiltshire, were summond  by Mrs. Kate Kirkgate, at the Huddersfield Borough Court yesterdny, for doing malicions damage; It wats started that on the 17th the defendants went to the complainant house, and were not admitted. After threatening to ‘break up the happy home they threw stones  through the windows, damaging pots, vases, table, and breaking a paraffin lamp, which set fire to the blinds. The magistrates dismissed the case against Ambrose Burnside, and ordered the other two defendants to pay 28s. each. Wiltshire was also fined 19s., including costs, for having assaulted Mrs.Bottomley.

 Hi Jane
  I have tried to find your relatives on your Dads side, the Deadmans being the Gipsies you speak of, I hope some of the storys may help you in your research, try and look out for names and locations and names of Public Houses then research these, I will put a few more things on for you then leave it there, I just put on the Wiltshire man with the Burnsides to show you the Wiltshires Wilsher Wilshaw of your Dads side then the Burnsides of your Mothers side, well to show you how everyone knows everyone in all kinds of links through the storys of history and Families.
If some of the storys I may of got wrong as in you do not recognise them well that’s my own honest mistake, try and signe up to the  British Newspaper Archives if you can, its the best site on the internet and it only costs a few pounds to find millions of records, it is a must for all people, a real game changer, you get three free goes by just signing up.

 I know you may have done this already and evan read everything before its just I wanted to help you just in the chance you may not of seen one or two of the Older Gipsy Deadmans from reading of their lifes they are a great Family indeed.


Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 13:58 GMT (UK)  »
  Saturday 13 January 1962
    Rugeley Times

Scrap dealer had no licence for pick-up truck
  A Walsall scrap dealer, whose address was given as rear of Coach and Horses. Abbots Bromley. was fined £2, with  £4 3s. costa, at Walsall Magistrates Court on Friday. for having no carriers' licence for his pick-up truck. He is Joseph ....... and he admitted the , offence. Mr. E. Smith, Walsall traffic inspector stated that he saw the man driving a pick-up truck on the Birmingham Road towards ' the town centre, and  that there was no licence disc on the window Mr. A. Oliver. traffic inspector, of Burton-on-Trent. stated that when he told ....... that he would be reported for the offence, he replied: I did not realise I had I to have a carrier's licence. My brother told me that so long as I was carrying my own goods I need not have one.' In a letter to the court. defendant said he had not since used the van, but had got the necessary forms and was going to fill them in and get a licence as soon as  he had the necessary money.

 Saturday 19 June 1965
  Rugeley Times


Wednesday 18 February 1987
  Derby Daily Telegraph


... planning permission. Planning consultant Mr Christopher Beresford-Webb, for Mr ......., said………………
 Monday 23 February 1987
  Derby Daily Telegraph


A GIPSY's dream of having his own caravan site near his council house could be blocked because the land may be needed for a country park. Objectors have told a planning inquiry that gipsies should not be allowed to set up camp near the site which Derbyshire County Council has earmarked as a country park. Gipsy ....... gave up his travelling life and moved into 4 Forge Row, Ironville, near Alfreton two years ago. And he bought a piece of land nearby to use as a caravan site so his family could visit him. But when planners turned down the idea, Mr ....... carried on regardless. Amber Valley District Council then took enforcement  action The decision will be announced at a later date. …………...

Monday 20 July 1987
  Derby Daily Telegraph


  GIPSY ....... who gave up life on the road for the comforts of a council house has lost his fight to set up his own caravan site.  Mr Deadman, who bought a plot of land at Kennels Lane, Ironville, because he didn't want to lose touch with his travelling family, has had his hopes dashed by a Government inspector. He wanted his travelling son and daughter to be able to park their caravans on the land when visiting, but Amber Valley District Council rejected his plans and started enforcement action to keep him off. he lodged an appeal but now Department of the Environment……………. 

Wednesday 02 December 1992
  Staffordshire Sentinel

  Cut price carpets and super kitchens There is more to Cut Price Carpets than meets the eye. After 15 years building up an enviable reputation in Leek and surrounding areas, proprietor ....... has expanded his extensive carpet showroom to include fitted kitchens and bedrooms. Said ....... nowadays we find our customers are more and more discerning when it comes to value for money and it seemed a natural progression to go from carpets to kitchens and bedrooms....

  Cobbles Mr ....... aged 42, who runs a carpet business from Bodkin Court pumped in    his own money with further cash provided by the Moorlands Towns Partnership project. The courtyard cobbles were lifted. cleaned and relaid. Ornate 'arts and crafts-style' gales were provided     
Royal oaks for Moorlands Queen. A run down corner of Leek  has been restored under a major initiative to upgrade the town. For decades Bodkin Court. off Stanley Street, has served as a shortcut between the town centre and Brook Street. But its neglected buildings and uneven stone cobbles made it look scruffy and unattractive. Now the area has been transformed into an elegant  Victorian courtyard in a partnership project between  businessman Mr ....... and conservation workers Ceremony The finished courtyard was officially reopened with a ribbon-cutting ceremony performed by Leek town Mayor Judith Rider. Mrs Rider said she was delighted with the success of the scheme. She added: I hope it will inspire other property owners to come forward with their own enhancement schemes. The Moorlands Towns Partnership is jointly funded by English Heritage, Staffordshire Moorlands District Council and Leek Town Council. As well as refurbishment  projects in Leek town centre, grants have also been provided for a variety of schemes, including improvements to unsympathetic including improvements to unsympathetic shopfronts and repairs to historic buildings. A workman installs one of the bollards and 18th century railings repaired and repainted. The carpet warehouse was fully refurbished, including the installation of a kitchen, new toilets and other features.


Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 13:57 GMT (UK)  »

Thursday 25 January 1945
 Derby Daily Telegraph

Charged More Than Double For Linoleum Said to have sold for £4 a piece of linoleum for which the controlled price was 35s., Martha Deadman, of the Dennis Filling Station, Alfreton-road, Breadsall, was fined £5 with 4s. costs at Derby yesterday.  Mr. C- F. R. Cleaver, for the North Midlands Price Regulation Committee, said  that a Mrs. Gunn, of Findernstreet, Derby, saw an advertisement relating to a sale carpets, rugs and linoleum at the sale room at the White Horse Hotel.
She went there and was asked £4 for a piece linoleum three yards by twoand-a-half yards. She objected to the price, but she paid it after an assistant had told her that it was the that it was the controlled price. Later, Mr. Cleaver went on, Mrs. Gunn saw a similar piece of linoleum in a shop, priced at 355., and that, in fact, was the the maximum permitted price. Mrs. Deadman, when interviewed, said that she ran a small business in carpets and rugs, but this was the first occasion on which she had sold linoleum. She bought some pieces from a hawker, but found that she did not need them and put them in the sale. A later advertisement, however, also referred to linoleum, Mr. Cleaver added.
Mr. A. R. Flint, defending, said that Mrs. Deadman bought two pieces of linoleum for  £4 each, and she thought she could sell them at the same price. The schedule of controlled prices for linoleum referred to more than100 different kinds, and nobody who was not in the trade could possibly understand it. Mr A. H. Domleo, the chairman said that the Bench considered that Mrs. Deadman did trade in linoleum, and she should have known the correct prices.

Wednesday 16 October 1946
 Skegness Standard

 Thomas Foster, general dealer, of Kegworth. and Samuel Deadman and Thomas Deadman. of Bredsall, Derby, were summoned for trespassing in search of hares at Addlethorpe on July 10th. P.c. Lowe……….. 

Friday 25 March 1949
  Nottingham Journal

... Penalties totalling more than £25 were at Derby yesterday imposed on Samuel Deadman, of 16 Rugby-street, Derby, who admitted contravening the Price Control regulations relating to carpets. Deadman pleaded Guilty to selling an Axminster carpet, and offering ...

 Thursday 18 February 1954
  Burton Observer and Chronicle

  …….can you said Mrs. Deadman. The application of Mr. H. T. Meades, on behalf of Burton Corporation, for the caravan to be removed within seven days, was granted. Told she would have to pay 15s. 6d. court fees, Mrs. Deadman said: I am very sorry: you ........


Saturday 20 September 1958
 Rugeley Times

 Horse dealer who became salesman The death occurred on Tuesday of Mr. Roy Deadman. of Alma Dene. Garden Drive, Rugeley. Mr. Deadman, who was 71, was well known in the town. In his younger days he was like his father and grandfather before him, a horse dealer, but he later became a travelling carpet salesman. He travelled all over the country and finally settled in Rageley eight years ago. He leaves a widow, Mrs Elizabeth Deadman, whom he married 48 years ago at Tamworth. two sons and two daughters. He had been ill for several  The funeral is at St. Augustlnes Parish Church on Monday afternoon. 

Saturday 27 September 1958
  Rugeley Times

100 MOURNERS AT RUG ELEY FUNERAL The funeral of Mr. Roy Deadman which took place at St. Augustine's Church on Monday afternoon was the most numerously attended in Rugeley for a considerable time, there being about 100 family mourners. The cortege included more than 20 cars. The service, conducted by the Vicar. the Rev. H. L. Townshend. included hymns and a short address. The was in a white bricked vault, constructed by Messrs. Charles Hill. of Wednesbury. and the funeral arrangements were by Messrs. Bull and Keatley There were 66 floral tributes. including  a five-foot cross of red roses from the widow. which was placed on the coffin. One tribute was in the form of a vacant chair composed of  red flowers. 

Friday 30 January 1959
  Lichfield Mercury
  Mr. Roy Deadman. of Alma Dene, Garden Drive, Rugeley, who died on September 16 last, left £1,750 gross, £1,600 net value. Probate has been granted to his widow Mrs. Elizabeth Deadman, of the same address. ...

Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 13:56 GMT (UK)  »
Friday 13 March 1942
  The Scotsman
   Midlothian Scotland

THE GIPSY MIND . —A plea'for the Sheriff to take into consideration the gipsy mind was put forward , by an agent at Stirling Sheriff Court yesterday when he appeared on behalf of Roy Deadman ( 52 ) , general dealer, residing in a caravan at Raploch Farm , Raploch Road, Stirling……………   
Tuesday 17 March 1942
  Stirling Observer
   Stirlingshire Scotland

HAWKER JAILED BOUGHT STOLEN CLOTH. An illiterate hawker, who was told by Sheriff Burn-Murdoch at Stirling on Thursday that you were clever enough to know that dealing in cloth in these days of coupons is becoming very nearly a ‘black market,’ for which very severe penalties have recently been imposed,” was sent to prison for three months for resetting 98 yards of stolen cloth and 322 yards of cloth lining. Accused was  Roy Deadman (52 ), general dealer, residing in a caravan at Raploch Farm, Stirling, and he admitted a previous conviction for fraud and attempted fraud. The fiscal explained that the cloth had been stolen by a Glasgow lorry driver, now serving a sentence of one year for theft. The cloth was valued at £58. and accused bought it for £ll. All but £lO or £l5 worth of the material stolen had been recovered. Mr Donald C. Orr, solicitor, Hamilton, said that Deadman was one of those people whose families had been engaged in dealing for generations. Their lives were spent buying cheap and selling dear. It was difficult, unless one had studied Borrow, to realise the mind of that sort of gipsy class. He had had them as clients for over thirty years, and he thought he knew them. He had pleaded for them over the length and breadth of Scotland, but had ceased to do that unless in special cases. It was because he thought there was a chance of saving accused that he had left the seclusion of his office to make a personal plea for Deadman.

Friday 25 September 1942
  Lichfield Mercury

Old Staffordshire Characters J. W. JACKSON (Continued). If we look into the humbler spheres of life we shall find many  interesting characters well worthy of mention. When a boy (seventy years ago) I lived in the country and I well recollect how I looked forward with interest to the anuall visit of the gipsies, who camped near my home for a couple of months at a time. Three families, the Lee's, Smith's and Deadman's were regular visitors, but it is the first named I knew best. Gipsy Lee was a splendid specimen of the true Romany—a little over the average height, broad shouldered, deep-chested, strongly built, black - haired, keen - eyed, with deep, broad brow, and a chin which betokened firmness and determination, he was indeed a striking character. He had a very attractive manner, a genial smile, and even temper. I well remember the farmer who gave him permission to stand his van on the wide grime verge, saying to another farmer that he had always found him a thoroughly honest man, and that his word was as good as his bond. Lee was welcombd by all the farmers in the neighbourhood including those from the members of the Congregational Church and the Sunday School.

Thursday 07 December 1944
  Derby Daily Telegraph

 200 RELATIVES AT BURIAL OF TWO GIPSIES When two well - known gipsies were buried in Derby this week, more than 200 relatives from all parts of the country came to the funerals. Twelve cars made two journeys to take the mourners to each funeral. Robert Calladine was living at Newark when he died, but his body was brought to Derby to be buried in Nottingham-road Cemetery yesterday, with his wife, who died 17 years ago.  Nearly 150 people were at the funeral, and among them were 22 nephews and 26 nieces. The second gipsy, George Deadman (66), lived on ground adjoining the filling station, Alfreton-road, Breadsall. There were nearly 120 relatives at his funeral on Tuesday. He leaves a widow, two daughters and fifteen grandchildren. 

LIGHTED CANDLES The old gipsy custom of watching over the bodies with lighted candles from the time of death until burial was observed. The last gipsy funeral to take place in Derby was nearly 12 months ago, when Mr. Deadman's son was killed by a falling tree at Louth, and his body was brought back to Derby for burial.

Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 13:55 GMT (UK)  »
Thursday 09 March 1939
 Derby Daily Telegraph

 DEFECTIVE TYRE John Deadman, hawker, of 110, Branston-road, Burton, was fined 10s. for using a motor-van with a defective tyre on Burton-road, Bretby……………….. 

Friday 14 April 1939
 Derbyshire Times and Chesterfield Herald

THE DERBYSHIRE TIMES, FRIDAY, APRIL 14, 1939 OLD JARYE” Well-known Hawker Brought To Newbold for Burial.

Attendance From all Parts of England Many travelling hawkers from a wide area came to Chesterfield on Tuesday to pay their last tribute to one their number, Mr. Jarvis Calladine, whose death occurred yesterday Thursday week at Crowle, Lines , at the age of 61 years. Deceased was known throughout the kingdom, and his friends from far and near came to pay respect to his memory. Cars of all descriptions brought them, from a magnificent Rolls-Royce to those of humbler makes. They came from Scotland, Wales. Newcastle. Crewe, Peterborough, Birmingham, London, Swansea, Lichfield. Manchester, Buxton, Nottingham, Doncaster, Mansfield and Stockport, and hundreds of Whittington Moor residents witnessed an impressive scene as they rode in the precession from the Sir Colin Campbell Hotel to the Church of St. John, where the Rev. R. C. Norfor (vicar Barlow) conducted the service.

STREETS THRONGED The streets were thronged with spectators, who have seldom seen a larger funeral. The coffin was almost hidden by a profusion of flowers, and wreaths also adorned the radiators and headlamps of the score or so cars which contained the relatives and friends of one who had returned to his native heath for the last time. The mourners included Mr. Calladine sons and daughters, who, following their father’s late example, travel the country In their caravans trading their wares in town and village. There were also many other relatives, one of whom is Mr. William Calladine the late Mr. Jarvis Calladine’s brother, better known amongst his fellow van dwellers as ‘‘The Man with the Brushes,” or just Brush.” Most, of the mourners rode in their own cars, while few followed in traveller's van, mourners included Mr. Jarvis Calladine, Mr. Charles Calladine. Miss Rose Calladine, Miss Kathleen  Calladine. Mr. and Mrs. J. Calladine, Mr. and Mrs. J. Hallam, Mrs. B. Partridge. Mrs. T. Partridge, Mrs. L. Burton, Mr. H. Hallam, Lizzie, Mr. Robert Calladine. Mr. W. Calladine. Mrs. M. Broadhurst. Mr. R. Elliott, Mr. and Mrs. R. Green, Mr. and Mrs. G. Deadman.  After the funeral service the mourners had tea at the Colin Campbell Hotel.

 Friday 13 February 1942
 Nottingham Evening Post

RAID ON GIPSY CAMP £39 In Fines At Derby A total of £39 was reaped in fines at Derby County Police Court to-day as result of a police raid on a gipsy encampment in Alfreton-road, Breadsall, where the papers of nearly 100 persons were examined. Hamilton Forrest had to pay £5 for being a British subject, using a name other than that by which he was ordinarily known immediately before the coming into force of the Defence Regulations, £5 for having in his possession an identity card which did not relate to him, and £5 for falsely representing he was the person to whom the card related. To the second and third of these offences Rabbi Boswell also pleaded guilty, and he likewise was fined £5 for each. John Finney was convicted in £1 for assuming the name Connor Finney after he had come to this country from Eire. Elias Morrison, who failed to enter a change of address in his motor car registration book, was fined £1. All said to be incapable of reading or writing, 12 other persons were each fined £1 for not notifying change of address to national registration officer. They were:  Pretories Gaskin, Sam and Martha Douglas, Hughie Maguire, Samuel and Martha Deadman, Horace, Winifred, Nellie, Alfred, Mary, and Leona Smith. All the defendants were legally represented.

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