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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:16 BST (UK)  »
Newton may not be her maiden name, she would not have had to give any proof of her name when the birth was registered.  Did she register the birth or was it her supposed husband
She registered it

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:10 BST (UK)  »
There is an 1861 entry for an unmarried Sarah Gough b 1835 Ealing working as a House servant in Marylebone

With parents James & Rachel in Ealing in 1851
HO107 / Piece 1699 Folio 79 Page 22

also 1841
HO107 /Piece 689 bk 9 f26 p6
Thank you I will have a look at that

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:08 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to RootsChat,

Really sorry, but William and Sarah may not have married.  My great grandfather had 17 children with two different women, neither of whom he married. One of the children has the mother's name on the registration, but the others were all registered with his name.  This was at the same time period that you have indicated.

Nell
Thank you. Thats a thought, obviously cant go by named people on the birth certificate. Williams father is named as is the mother with formley Newton. This family is really a mystery, I've been stuck on it for over 3 years now.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:03 BST (UK)  »
The only 1871 entry shows a Sarah Thurston b 1836 Ealing living with a Francis Robinson Thurston (not Robert) in Derbyshire?  Son William Edward b 1860 Notting Hill

Francis Robinson Thurston married in 1879 - but not to Sarah
Yes, Francis was living with his mum in Suffolk when William was born, no marriage between them

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:02 BST (UK)  »
Is this the sons birth registration in 1859.  :-\
GOUGH, WILLIAM  EDWARD     mmn NEWTON 
1859  December Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 53
Yes that's him

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:01 BST (UK)  »
Is this the sons birth registration in 1859.  :-\
GOUGH, WILLIAM  EDWARD     mmn NEWTON 
1859  December Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 53
Yes it is

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:01 BST (UK)  »
I can't readily see a marriage between William Gough and Sarah Newton.  FreeBMD - using William Gough and surname Newton - shows no results.
It's all so strange

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 18:00 BST (UK)  »
Newton may not be her maiden name, she would not have had to give any proof of her name when the birth was registered.  Did she register the birth or was it her supposed husband
This is where its confusing for me. The father is William on the birth certificate, on William's marriage certificate there is no father listed. There is a baptism record for William with the parents William Thomas Gough and Sarah gough in 1861 in Ealing which fits, but on his birth cert he is William Edward, this one is William Thomas, although his full name was William Edward Thomas Gough

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help finding a Birth before 1837
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 17:57 BST (UK)  »
I can't readily see a marriage between William Gough and Sarah Newton.  FreeBMD - using William Gough and surname Newton - shows no results.
Hi, thank you, I found that problem, there is only one for these and that's in 1769 but they would be to old to have had William in 1860, its strange how there is no record of a marriage

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