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No sorry her maiden name was Lumsden, in some cases this has been written incorrectly as Lumden. Thank you

I am trying to find out about my grandparents. My grandmother was born in 1911 and had a baby aged 29. My grandfather was born in 1905, initially a coal minor in Pelton before he joined the army. 1929 they had a baby while unmarried and he was posted to India. We assume my grandmother somehow went with him as they were married in India in 1932. They had their next child out in India 1933. We know he was attained in 1926 and initially worked in Aldershot then was posted out to India. What we don't understand is, would he have been allowed to take his unmarried partner and child, or could she somehow have been paid for privately. Where would she be likely to live? Any ideas how we can find out. Their names are William Dobson Ridley and Elsie Ridley

Sorry yes Ive just seen this. It is the correct Ralph Lumsden thanks so much. His wife Meggie is also listed but the third person living there is locked. I think its the daughter Jean who died well into her later years. I cant unlock it though as don't have her death certificate. Is there any other way of knowing if its her?
On another note, did most underground coal workers not get called up? Also any idea what age a coal miner worked until and then would they likely just live with family?
What sort of work would teenage daughters be doing ie born in 1911?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« on: Wednesday 06 April 16 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Thanks. I probably need to post this elsewhere but if born in 1905 I am assuming he couldn't sign up to the army until aged 18? Does anyone know around the 1925 time if he would have joined a territorial army first before attainment in 1926? Did he need any experience before signing up and being posted to Aldershop immediately. He seemed to be living around Pelton and Urpeth Collieries, Chester-Le_Street

Hi I am looking for relatives that were known to be living in the Durham area, The Lumsden family, consisting of husband, wife and daughter Jean. We know where they were in 1911 but by 1939 there is no trace of them. We know they were still alive and not known to have moved abroad. Can anyone help with how we might trace them. Ralph Lumsden was a coal miner but could have been called up to the army?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« on: Thursday 31 March 16 18:38 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Stan. So if he attested to East yorkshire army 6.4.25 is there anyway we can find out where he lived and what he was doing or is that impossible? Am I right that he could not sign up until 17/18. He was born in 1905

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« on: Thursday 31 March 16 16:25 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much. I have found birtley south colliery on the map just below the clay pits. Is there anywhere you can find out where the miners were working or where children were schooled at different collieries? At what age were children likely to be at school then would they also likely become miners. We know he attained at the army in 1924. If his parents were in front street pelton that's a fair distance, how did they communicate?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« on: Thursday 31 March 16 09:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi I am researching the same family as djw134. Could you explain why a postal address read urpeth colliery, Birtley then something that looks like so or co?
i think Birtley was the name of an ironworks company working at urPerth colliery is that right? Also found a photo of Birtley institute what was that for?
Also what age could someone born in 1905 sign up for the army was it 1924? In the 1911 his address was above so would he be at a colliery school and would he also work at the mines once a certain age before signing up?
Lastly we know he was age 6 in 1911 living with his 55 year old grandad, 20 yr old aunt and 18 year old uncle who was a coal miner putter. But his parents were living first street pelton father also a miner. We have the birth certificate so know they are his parents. His mother has signed she has 3 children and 3 alive and it lists them as living there but why does she not say she has 4? Where he was listed as being at the colliery with his grandad etc he was down as being his grandson but the grandfather wrote the figure of all of his children even though they weren't living there? What benefit was there for one child aged 6 to be living elsewhere if the family were married and had been when he was born. Could they not have more than 3 children living with them in 1911? Or was it to do with schooling maybe?

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