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Australia / Re: Thomas SKINNER, born 1814? in Tasmania? and parents?
« on: Tuesday 10 May 16 15:24 BST (UK)  »
Ok, so I just went through 200 newspaper articles containing the name "Thomas SKINNER" in Victoria.

And have discovered from at least 1879, until his death in 1890, Mr Thomas SKINNER was an owner of a portable Saveloy Machine. He would periodically advertise for a man to drive it (conveniently listing his street address each time  ;D ) before an announcement of Harriett SKINNER becoming the administer of his estate in 1890.

I am happy that they stayed together so long :)

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Australia / Re: Thomas SKINNER, born 1814? in Tasmania? and parents?
« on: Tuesday 10 May 16 10:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Judith!

I think that might be a different Harriett SKINNER. I do have that inquest document saved to my family tree, in case it turns out to be her. But why would she go back to Tasmania? Particularly when she had just had Henry SKINNER (b 1857, Kangaroo Ground, Victoria reg#5599)?

I do also have a record for Hart SKINNER, died in Carlton North, Victoria in 1901 (reg#1015). Father listed as Richd HUTCHENSON and mother Bridt BURNE, which I **assume** is her.

The same Richard HUTCHINSON and Bridget BYRNES (both convicts transported to Tasmania) had
Jane HUTCHINSON 1818–1879
Ann HUTCHINSON 1821–
Eleanor HUTCHINSON 1822–
and Mark HUTCHINSON 1825–
all born in Tasmania, before Harriett came along in 1826.

If you are interested in such things; Richard HUTCHINSON met a terrible end in 1830.
Some of it is sumerised here:
http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/hutchinson/richard/95541
There is also the confession of his killer, which was published in full in the newspaper:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8646019

Don't read it before going to bed ;)

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Its actually a board/forum like rootschat where people post requests...it is not a chat room.

Her marriage certificate would give the names of her parents.  I would also mention here that comments/stories about people are often difficult to verify.  All we can do is find the facts.  Stories become distorted over the years.

Cando  :)

I know, I am clutching at straws  :D
But I will get there  ;)

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Australia / Re: World War Two Nominal Roll website: place code decoding please?
« on: Tuesday 10 May 16 07:10 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Gerry and Debra :)

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Australia / Re: Thomas SKINNER, born 1814? in Tasmania? and parents?
« on: Tuesday 10 May 16 07:01 BST (UK)  »
Re Thomas SKINNER
Again, using the ref supplied by Debra, Thomas SKINNER, tried at Westminster, October 1832 was transported per Emporer Alexander.
The record shows that there was further misconduct in 1837 in VDL.  It reads to me as though Thomas SKINNER, and his wife (no name given) with convicts 1512 David HALL, 880 Anthony TAYLOR and 1160 ? SIBLEY induced William and Ann BLANCHARD (free persons) to stay in the Government Brickmakers' Hut at Norfolk Plains with the intention of robbing them after getting them drunk.  I think it read that they were not brought to trial as the parties robbed were too drunk at the time to be able to give evidence.

Perhaps these names and the place given could be useful to you?  I apologise but I'm not very au fait with Tasmanian history/geography.  :(

You are a STAR Judith!
Yes, that supports the occupation of Thomas Skinner as a Brickmaker :)
I was totally unable to read most of that writing yesterday, and was going to try different coloured filters later, but I think you got most of it  ;D

Yeah, It would not surprise me that William SKINNER was apparently accepting stolen property from Bush rangers. I don't think any of them could keep out of trouble.
In 1837 (after becoming a free woman ???) Susan SKINNER was arrested for being drunk and disorderly. And both her and Thomas SKINNER's records were pretty long!

I hope that they stayed out of trouble after they moved onto Victoria, but I have not looked up any newspapers to see if they appear yet....

Thank you, Tracey

Modified to clarify: I hope Thomas SKINNER kept out of trouble with his new wife Harriett HUTCHINSON after they moved to Victoria some time around 1846-1848. I wonder if William went with them. I am curious about him now.

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Australia / Re: Thomas SKINNER, born 1814? in Tasmania? and parents?
« on: Tuesday 10 May 16 06:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tracey, 

You may need to check your centuries again.

 :)  1920 or 1820 for the arrival of the Morley. 

Re the 1820 voyage of the Morley

From the INDEX for the NSW Col Sec papers 1788-1825 (many digitised images available online via Ancestry) but here's the link to the free to search index, showing the source is filmed at NSW SR reel 6007

http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/m/F39c_mo-14.htm#P6015_211225
1820 Sep 22
List of 30 female convicts disembarked from and forwarded to Parramatta for distribution 

Parramatta is in New South Wales.   

Cheers,  JM

Oh boy!! My bad. Yes, 1820, not 100 years later :)

The Morley traveled from London with 121-124 (conflicting passenger lists) convicts on board. On 29 August 1820 she arrived in Hobart and disembarked at least 50 convicts (the Tasmanian Name Index has records for 56, of which Sussannah Marr is one), she then took on 7 passengers from the Janus before sailing to Port Jackson where she arrived on 30 Sept 1820.
At least the thirty you have found on that list obviously went to the goal at Parramatta, which leaves about 40 unaccounted for..... it is possible they were not all convicts either, as the Morley carried female passengers and children that were allowed to join their husbands in the colonies.

This has some nice references at the end:
http://www.jenwilletts.com/morley_1820.htm

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Beautiful, thanks ;D

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Australia / Re: Thomas SKINNER, born 1814? in Tasmania? and parents?
« on: Monday 09 May 16 06:30 BST (UK)  »
Ok, so back to the theory that the convict Susan MARR who arrived on the 'Morley' in 1820, is the same Susan MARR that married Thomas Skinner in 1836 and potentially died in 1839.

If she is the same, then she must have been released or pardoned prior to the marriage in 1836. I should also be able to figure out an estimate birth year from her convict records (if I can find them) which will hopefully confirm the birth estimate from the death record for Susan SKINNER in 1839.

Modified to add:
MARR, Susannah, arrived 29 Aug 1920 from London on the "morley"

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Australia / Re: Thomas SKINNER, born 1814? in Tasmania? and parents?
« on: Monday 09 May 16 06:24 BST (UK)  »
Sure that wills not a hundred years later...1939??

https://stors.tas.gov.au/AD960-1-63-22907

Peter

You are right.
Please don't mind me adding 100 years here or there **bangs head on table**

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