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The Common Room / DNA Family Secrets - BBC Two, Stacey Dooley presenting
« on: Friday 09 June 23 13:13 BST (UK)  »
Can't see this having being mentioned, presented by Stacey Dooley on BBC Two, an alternative to the WDYTYA with members of the public having family mysteries solved through DNA. I must have missed the first series, as we are now on Season 2. Only seen one episode so far, but very well done, and moving stories in Episode 2 with escape from a concentration camp for one man as a child finding refuge in Britain, but not knowing who his father was, and a woman (actually the mother of the band singer in Strictly Come Dancing) having been born in Liverpool during the war, but being told her father was not her father when she was 19, and trying to discover if her father was an American GI

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m000sthc/dna-family-secrets

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Would I be right in thinking, that if a woman remarried, any children she had that were under age would become the responsibility re: parish relief of the parish of settlement of her new husband?
   Also, I have read that sometimes that a person's parish of settlement could change if they had paid poor rates for long enough in a parish. Does anyone know if there was a hard and fast rule to it, 5 years, 10 years etc., or was it just up to the discretion of the parish overseers, and perhaps, if that person was seen as deserving etc. not profligate, lazy, a drunkard etc.?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Ancestry DNA 30% off Father's Day sale
« on: Friday 02 June 23 11:01 BST (UK)  »
2nd best offer of the year except Black Friday (£5 cheaper) - Ancestry DNA standard test £54 (reduced from £79), test including a 3 month worldwide membership £55, test with traits £64 plus £9.99 standard P&P

offer ends 15th June 23:59

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/dna/

(the only cheaper offer is usually Black Friday when it goes down to £49)

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The Common Room / 30% off Ancestry DNA 2nd cheapest offers of the year
« on: Friday 02 June 23 11:00 BST (UK)  »
Don't normally post in tcr, but as it is on sale cheaper than usual, I think this qualifies as an exception :)
Ancestry DNA standard test £54 (reduced from £79), test including a 3 month worldwide membership £55, test with traits £64 plus £9.99 standard P&P

offer ends 15th June 23:59

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/dna/

(the only cheaper offer is usually Black Friday when it goes down to £49)

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The Common Room / Poor Rates - were they paid by the owner or occupier?
« on: Saturday 27 May 23 11:04 BST (UK)  »
I am struggling to find a firm answer to this, genguide says they were paid by the property owners and occupiers, but I am looking through lists of poor rates collected and there is only one person with each property listed?

https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/rate-books-parish/

So perhaps it is the owner, if they were the occupier, but, if not, the renter/leaser if they were in occupation?

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Sussex / Original 17th and 18th century Battle registers are hidden on Ancestry
« on: Thursday 25 May 23 19:52 BST (UK)  »
I have already encountered the problem that many of the original Sussex registers uploaded to Ancestry do not have the county name filled in, only the parish, so to find the original you first need to locate the transcribed entry (which all seem to have been indexed correctly), then search for the name, with date and the parish as a keyword. But the 17th and 18th century (up to 1775/85) original registers of Battle seem to have been indexed with NO county name OR parish name, so you can only find the entry by limiting the date and hoping its been transcribed correctly. Links for the original Battle registers below:

Baptisms: March 1610 - Aug. 1653
Marriages: April 1610 - Sep 1653
Burials: March 1610 -1654

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62049/images/par_236-1-1-1_001?pId=51624

Baptisms: 1654-1785
Marriages: 1654-1775
Burials: 1654-1659
             1664-1675
             1686-1785

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62049/images/par_236-1-1-2-01?pId=51624

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Sussex / East and West Sussex wills now on Ancestry
« on: Tuesday 23 May 23 17:57 BST (UK)  »
As per title, link to thread in Common Room, please post there
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=873165.0

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The good news is that all the wills, administrations and inventories of East (Archdeaconry of Lewes +peculiars) and West Sussex (Archdeaconry of Chichester + peculiars) have now been digitized and are available with an Ancestry subscription (or at your local library)....the bad point is the transcription is to the usual Ancestry standard, which is OKish to terrible ..or laughable depending on your mood ::) :o

These are the most often misunderstood letters (or letter combinations) that I have so far come across:

1. lower case es being mistaken for os (very very common pre 1800)
2. Upper case Cs being mistaken for Gs or Os.
3. Upper case Gs being mistaken for Cs or Ss.
4. Upper case Is being mistaken for Js.
5. Upper case Js being mistaken for Ts.
6. lower case ss being mistaken for rs and vice versa.
7. lower case hs being mistaken for ss or ps in older writing.
8. Upper cases Fs (written ff or Ff) being mistaken for Hs or If or Is.
9. St being mistaken for H.
10. lower case cs being mistaken for rs or ts.

So.... apparently there are 39 Wooks, Wookes, and Wookers - actually Weeks and Weekes ::)
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62213/?name=_wook*&count=50&name_x=s_1

The names on the administration bonds are also usually the bonds person and administrators of the estates, but the correct name is usually recorded on the cover page, but you need to click backwards and forwards from the link you find to make sure you have all the records. Also the person recorded for the probates of wills is often the executor not the person whose will it was, but again, hopefully the correct(ish) name will be recorded from the cover page or start of the will.

If you are going back to early 1600s or 16th century handwriting most bets are off and the names are often completely mangled. As I suggest with the Prerogative Court wills, for which I suggest using the National Archives index as the primary search, before attempting to find on Ancestry, I would suggest using the East Sussex and West Sussex online catalogues to find if what you want may exist, and then using whatever combination of wildcards or browsing on Ancestry to find where it is :o

(to find just wills on the archives, search for a name or place and probate)

East Sussex Wills 1518-1858
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62213/

East Sussex Archives 'The Keep' online catalogue
https://www.thekeep.info/

West Sussex Wills 1521-1858
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62214/

West Sussex Record Office online catalogue
https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/leisure-recreation-and-community/history-and-heritage/west-sussex-record-office/search-record-office-catalogue-online/

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Free Coronation weekend at Ancestry and Myheritage :D

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/c/coronation?o_xid=127543

https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-United-Kingdom/united-kingdom-genealogy-vital-records?tr_date=20230504

with caveat that on Ancestry you still won't be able to see family trees

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