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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: No DNA from grandfather's ethnicity
« on: Friday 03 July 20 19:31 BST (UK)  »
No oops sorry avm have modified

I mean its someone's grandfather
I gave example of amount of my ethnicity from 1 great grandfather

My mother has 24cm european Jewish ethnicitybecause she has a grandfather

The person whose DNA I'm looking at is related thru English side  to us but he also has a Jewish grandfather born London with family origins in Russia and south Africa his ethnicity doesnt reflect this
I am not sure Ancestry is particularly good at detecting Jewish ancestry, 23andme may be better, but again, like Ancestry I think they only have Ashkenazi samples. Better to look at matches, in gedmatch as well if you can upload there.

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I really can't understand why people are surprised that they are having to wait for non essential things like certificates, during a time unlike anything we've gone through before. I expect the GRO may had had to furlough a lot of staff, plus having to cope with staff who may have had to self isolate and arrange the work space to cope with social distancing. It clearly states on their page (and has done from the beginning) that there will be delays AND they ask people not to order unless urgent. So if people choose order anyway, or don't bother to read that warning, they can't then complain when they don't get a certificate in the normal time.
The problem is some people will not have seen the warning if they don't log out on their browser.

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My worry is with the "Any orders older than 3 months will be deleted from the online ordering system" part and whether that still applies if the order hasn't been completed within 3 months. Do you receive a refund or just lose the money? Maybe it wasn't considered possible that an order might take that long when the system was designed.

The advice to download PDFs presupposes that the order has been completed and the PDFs have been made available. (Note that I mentioned applying for paper certificates. I tried PDFs but sometimes found them difficult to read because they use black and white rather than grey scale.)

Well you certainly have been waiting a long time if you ordered them on 5 May.

Have you looked on the system and does it still say they are outstanding?

If the answer to that is yes then you just have to wait although i admit it seems unfair that a certificate I ordered on 1 June i received a week ago.

No they will not just delete them from the system and keep the money. At the very least if they don't fulfill the order they have to give you a reason so you will hear something
There doesn't seem to be much logic to it. My order was half completed over two weeks ago. I am not sure whether the other part has been somehow 'lost in the system', and how long I should wait to ask about it.

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Coronavirus

Due to Covid-19, certificate orders will not be completed within the published timescales

In line with public health guidance to help stop the spread of the coronavirus, the General Register Office is currently operating with reduced staffing to comply with social distancing restrictions.
We remain committed to processing orders as fast as we can, however please do not contact us for updates as we will be unable to confirm when your order will be completed.
If your order is not urgent, please help us to support those who need our services the most by coming back at a later date to apply.

For priority orders using Royal Mail Special Delivery or DHL Delivery, please check the relevant website for updates on delivery information.
Ah I see it only shows if you are not logged in.

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Ordered three paper certificates on the 5th May and still waiting.
When do we complain ::) :-\?

Why would you complain when they tell you on their site that there will be delays and not to order unless it is urgent?
I can't see any such warning

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

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Ordered three paper certificates on the 5th May and still waiting.
When do we complain ::) :-\?

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My great grandfather's first name was Patrick, a sure indicator in Scotland that he was Catholic. However he and all of our family were Church of Scotland! Historically the names Patrick and Peter were interchangeable in Scootland so although christened Patrick my great grandfather was usually known as Peter. I think that Patrick, an old Scottish name, probably fell into disfavour with the waves of Irish Catholic immigration into Scotland where the many Irish Patricks resulted in the name being associated with Catholicism. Just shows you that you should be wary of making assumptions about names.

Similarly Daniel was an old name in our family and it tends to be associated with being Catholic in Scotland although perhaps not quite as rigidly as Patrick. Interstingly Daniel and Donald were interchangeable names in Scotland so my most recent Daniel was actually christened Donald!

Confusing!
I think it was simply due to confusion, as one of the Gaelic forms of Patrick was Pátair

Just found this....
http://medievalscotland.org/problem/names/padraig.shtml


Quote from above: 
 "In modern Scottish Gaelic, Patrick exists in several forms: Pádruig, Páruig, Para, and Pádair or Pátair. This last form led to confusion with English Peter, and the two names were often treated as equivalent in the 18th and 19th centuries ".

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All the names people regard as Catholic, are simply saints' names as far as I am concerned. My husband's determinedly C of E family are already using Francis in Northumberland in the early 19th century and all the family boys' names turn up again and again in every generation, until at least the 20th century.  What may not be generally known is that the names of any admirable Old Testament figures were candidates for use in Catholic Ireland  in the 19th century. My cousin comes from an Irish family where Jeremiah turns up regularly until post 1900. It was his father's name too. I have an Irish Catholic ancestor whose name is recorded as 'Judie', presumably short for Judith. 'Tom' was another abbreviated form favoured by this particular priest. My own grandmother, born in Liverpool in 1882, was baptised Esther in the local Catholic church.

I always thought that other denominations used Old Testament names, not Catholics. I suppose I got that from Thomas Hardy's 'Far from the Madding Crowd', which I was forced to read  for 'O' Level. The name Hezekiah stands out in my memory ! I have just looked him up and he was one of the kings of Israel.
It becomes a bit more complicated with Irish first names, as many are replacements for Irish gaelic names which were not allowed to be written in the registers. For example, Jeremiah was often what was written in registers for males who were called Dermot in everyday life. Judy/Judith, or Johanna was used for Siobhan.

https://www.libraryireland.com/names/men/diarmaid-dermod.php

https://www.libraryireland.com/names/women/siobhan-joan.php



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3 weeks past an expected delivery date here.

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