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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Edward's surname
« on: Saturday 13 March 21 01:43 GMT (UK)  »
What is Edward's surname?
marriage of  Prudence THOROLD  to him should be after 1634.  Probably in London, but I cannot find it so far.

Kirkly?  Kockley

Thank you as always.


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United States of America / Alec Arthur WILSON b 1904 son of Charlotte Annie ANSCOMBE
« on: Sunday 28 February 21 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
Apologies for the length of this. I tried to abbreviate it  :-\

One of my Great Grandmother’s sisters  Charlotte Annie (Nancy) ANSCOMBE ‘Ran away with the butler  (Mr Wilson) to America”  “She and GGM were very close and wrote to each other every regularly until they died.”
“in WW2 she asked if her son could visit them (in Kent) when on leave, but he never did
.”


Charlotte Annie ANSCOMBE was born 27 April 1868, Edenbridge, Kent. had an illegitimate son Alec Arthur ANSCOMBE 

(GRO 1904 J Qtr, St Geo Hanover Sq. Vol 01A page 477)  I do not have this certificate

1 June 1905 Oceanic arrives NY

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFHJ-LZ8

on passenger list are

Charlotte A. WILSON  37 yrs 6 mths  wife. last perm residence Cambridge   to NY.  going to husband.  Alfred Harvey WILSON, Mansion House Hotel 478 4th Ave NY

Alec Arthur age 10 months.   

Charlotte was actually  37y 1 month so ages are not 100% accurate

I do not think Charlotte and Arthur ever married. he was a lot older than her - born about 1850

Charlotte and Arthur had another child. Olive Grace in 1907 NY.  I can account for her, marriage and death.

Arthur died 1917 (I think, certainly by 1923 when Charlotte applied for naturalization) and Charlotte Annie in 1942

 
I cannot find Charlotte Annie in 1940.  She is not at the 1930 address. 

In 1930 census for Los Angeles

at 946 3/4 West 85th Street

Charlotte A. WILSON  head.  Renting. b England
Alec A  WILSON son 25 b England, Carpenter’s Helper at Elec. Power . Plant
Olive G.  dau 23 b N.Y. Saleswoman, department store



and here is where I am very confused.

1940

at 946 W 85th St

Alec WILSON head 35 married b RHODE ISLAND
Esther WILSON 40  married b Mexico
William son 23 b California

WW2 draft card for an Alex Arthur WILSON  gives dob of 30 May 1904, Providence Rhode Island, Person who will always know how to contact him is J Ybarra of 902 W85th St


at 902 W85th in 1920 is


Josephine Ybarra 48 wd.      all b Mexico except last
Alfonso 13 son
Esther WILSON 23  dau  Divorced
William grandson.  3 0/12   birth place of father MISSOURI



and in 1930

Mary J Ybarra
other family and
Esther B WILSON 32, Divorced
George W. WILSON 13    birth place of father MISSOURI


George William WILSON’s draft card names his mother Esther of 946 W85th St and gives birth of 18 Jan 1917 

Alec Arthur WILSON dob 30 May 1904 died 17 Jan 1977


So.  1. Am I safe to ignore the amazing change in birth place and claim the one apparently born Rhode Island as one and the same as the one born in London?

        2.  How is Esther WILSON connected to the family?  Who was she divorced from?  Alec Arthur cannot be the  father of George William, he would have been only 12
Is there a marriage for her to either WILSON?

       3. Can anyone see Charlotte in 1940?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / a place and a name
« on: Thursday 25 February 21 03:47 GMT (UK)  »
Could someone please confirm or suggest alternatives to the words in red please

Thomas, 1 sonne lived at
Liverpoole he mar Kath
da to Wright of bickley?
& had no issue 2nly she
mar Tho. Lymall ald.


added - or it could be Jo. Wright?

67
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / John who married Mary HAMILTON 1624
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 02:50 GMT (UK)  »
Mary was the daughter of Sir Robert HAMILTON of Silvertonhill and his wife Eliz. Baillie.

trees have her marrying Sir John SOMERVILLE of Cambusnethan, but this does not look at all like Somerville or Cambusnethan to me.

Is it ELVINSTONE?   And what is the place?

I think it is STEVENSON.   Still can't figure out the place

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Philip Gannaway died in 1918 after serving in the war. He was a popular member of the local town – now, researchers are trying to find his family.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300189499/kiwi-sailor-who-died-from-spanish-flu-after-serving-in-wwi-buried-on-welsh-island?cid=app-iPad



His wife Alice Muriel Gannaway died in 1958.   I cannot see that they had any children.

Siblings of Philip


1899/12668   Gannaway   John   Hannah Cashman   Frederick George
1890/2204   Gannaway   Annie Rita   Hannah Cashman   Frederick George
1886/269           Gannaway   Philip Corliss   Hannah Cashman   Frederick George
1894/17852   Gannaway   Elsie May   Hannah   Frederick George
1884/16406   Gannaway   Frederick Mortimer   Hannah   Frederick George
1887/3452   Gannaway   Ada Beatrice   Hannah Cashman   Frederick George


Detailed tree on Ancestry. No need for us to struggle  :) :). I have messaged them.

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Harriet was baptised at Gnosall, Staffs on 18 March 1832. Parents Thomas and Harriet.  She was 9th of 11 children all baptised there.

Harriet married John KEBLE at Gnosall on 9 October 1854. She was a servant and he was a labourer. John names no father, but he did sign his name, as did a witness James KEBLE and another, Sarah MADELEY.   Harriet marked.
 
After that I cannot find them anywhere. It is Harriet whom I want to dispatch on the tree. I have not found a likely death  in the first five years after their marriage.

I do not believe she is the Harriet KIBBLE death in 1859, Newport as there is a Harriet KIBBLE who that could be.

I have looked in the usual places and  checked Gnosall records at http://www.gnosallhistory.co.uk/church_records.htm  and see no death for Harriet nor baptisms for children of them.

 Can anyone see them?
 Thank you
 

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The Lighter Side / What is a 'Sun-lit hand lamp"?
« on: Tuesday 20 October 20 09:51 BST (UK)  »
I am looking at a list of wedding presents in 1929

The Groom's present to the Bride was a 'Sun-lit hand lamp".   What might this be?  Is it an early tanning bed  ;D
It was his second marriage and they were both 43.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / name in 1861 census
« on: Friday 09 October 20 08:36 BST (UK)  »
This has been transcribed on Ancestry as

Palaford HELSON age 18, pupil, B Sussex, Brighton
and on FindMyPast as
Matilda BREDEE (unmarried male)   

It looks more like the former than the latter but I cannot find any him anywhere else. Birth/other census.
Can anyone else?

Census is 1861 Martyr Worth 52/690/22/12

He is one of about 10 boys being tutored by the Vicar of Martyr Worthy. One of them is an Honorable, and several born O/S  (Florence and Barbados, son of a Planter) so he could be "anyone"

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Armed Forces / New Book about British Soldiers who fought in the American Revolution
« on: Wednesday 16 September 20 00:39 BST (UK)  »
https://www.westholmepublishing.com/book/noble-volunteers-hagist/

I’ve not read it, but it sounds interesting for those with connections.

“ The First Full Account of the Men Who Came to America to Defend an Empire

Redcoats. For Americans, the word brings to mind a occupying army that attempted to crush a revolution against king and country. For centuries these soldiers have remained hidden despite their major role in one of the greatest events in world history. There was more to these men than their red uniforms, but the individuals who formed the ranks are seldom described in any detail in historical literature, leaving unanswered questions. Who were they? Why did they join the army? Where did they go when the war was over?

In Noble Volunteers: The British Soldiers Who Fought the American Revolution, Don N. Hagist brings life to these soldiers, describing the training, experiences, and outcomes of British soldiers who fought during the Revolution. Drawing on thousands of military records and other primary sources in British, American, and Canadian archives, and the writings of dozens of officers and soldiers, Noble Volunteers shows how a peacetime army responded to the onset of war, how professional soldiers adapted quickly and effectively to become tactically dominant, and what became of the thousands of career soldiers once the war was over.

In this historical tour de force, introduced by Pulitzer Prize winner Rick Atkinson, Hagist dispels long-held myths, revealing how remarkably diverse British soldiers were. They represented a variety of ages, nationalities, and socioeconomic backgrounds, and many had joined the army as a peacetime career, only to find themselves fighting a war on another continent in often brutal conditions. Against the sweeping backdrop of the war, Hagist directs his focus on the small picture, illuminating the moments in an individual soldier’s life—those hours spent nursing a fever while standing sentry in the bitter cold, or writing a letter to a wife back home. What emerges from these vignettes is the understanding that while these were “common” soldiers, each soldier was completely unique, for, as Hagist writes, “There was no ‘typical’ British soldier.”

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