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Norfolk / Re: Harrisons of Norfolk Co.: near Chedgrave, possibly Great Plumstead and Caister
« on: Wednesday 10 May 17 20:13 BST (UK) »
Terrific. Thank you, AmoNDG.
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Norfolk / Re: Harrisons of Norfolk Co.: Caister or Great Plumstead
« on: Tuesday 09 May 17 16:00 BST (UK) »
Dear AmonDG,
Thank you for replying and offering help with my Harrisons who may go back to the Harrisons of Caister, Norfolk County.
If you were to send me a private message, PM, with your email address, I could send you a Harrison family tree for Caister, Norfolk County, that I have just made. It is a bit of a mess as it combines different sources, some of them church records (good) and some 19th century chat (not good). It is based on a family tree sent to the LDS church lib ray in Utah, U.S., researched in the 1880s using church baptismal and marriage records.
I am interested in someone born about the 1620s, name not known, but likely John Harrison who was born in Norfolk County and died in Ireland. All of "John's" descendants for a while were--not surprisingly--farmers. In Ireland in the 1700s and 1800s they had about 30 to 40 acres and rented. In Ireland only one son inherited and the other children "traveled," meaning them emigrated. There are over 84 farms, not only in Ulster, but also in Canada, the U.S. (New York and Virginia), and (Mangapai) New Zealand. All but two were cattle farms or dairy farms. (Each also had hens and pigs for the family at least.) Two other farmers grew cranberries and had a fox hunt. In the South of the U.S. they were not farms but large plantations. In contrast to other Harrison families, from whom we have had to distinguish ourselves in studying our tree, our Harrisons were literate, partly owing to the fact they were Presbyterian (starting in Ireland about 1685-1703). In England we could have been anything, but probably Protestant in the 1500s and 1600s, as all descendants are.
If ever I exchanged photos with a Harrison male of this family (mine), I would know instantly whether or not he was a relative by looking at his forehead. Though baldness is handed down through the mother, that hairline is undoubtedly a male trait as even our 8th and 11th cousins named Harrison have it.
Again thank you for your help in finding anyone who has ever studied this Harrison family tree. We are more interested--in this stage--in confirming where we are from and which big family we are from than in names and dates. We are simply seeking contact with the Harrison family of Caister or Great Plumstead, the one studied in the 1880s by a Hargrave-Harrison who looked at church records (including looking at Chedgrave, where a Harrison was a church clerk). Is no one currently researching the Caister Harrisons of Norfolk County? Has the family died out there? Thank you for your attention to our family.
Polly LYNN
Thank you for replying and offering help with my Harrisons who may go back to the Harrisons of Caister, Norfolk County.
If you were to send me a private message, PM, with your email address, I could send you a Harrison family tree for Caister, Norfolk County, that I have just made. It is a bit of a mess as it combines different sources, some of them church records (good) and some 19th century chat (not good). It is based on a family tree sent to the LDS church lib ray in Utah, U.S., researched in the 1880s using church baptismal and marriage records.
I am interested in someone born about the 1620s, name not known, but likely John Harrison who was born in Norfolk County and died in Ireland. All of "John's" descendants for a while were--not surprisingly--farmers. In Ireland in the 1700s and 1800s they had about 30 to 40 acres and rented. In Ireland only one son inherited and the other children "traveled," meaning them emigrated. There are over 84 farms, not only in Ulster, but also in Canada, the U.S. (New York and Virginia), and (Mangapai) New Zealand. All but two were cattle farms or dairy farms. (Each also had hens and pigs for the family at least.) Two other farmers grew cranberries and had a fox hunt. In the South of the U.S. they were not farms but large plantations. In contrast to other Harrison families, from whom we have had to distinguish ourselves in studying our tree, our Harrisons were literate, partly owing to the fact they were Presbyterian (starting in Ireland about 1685-1703). In England we could have been anything, but probably Protestant in the 1500s and 1600s, as all descendants are.
If ever I exchanged photos with a Harrison male of this family (mine), I would know instantly whether or not he was a relative by looking at his forehead. Though baldness is handed down through the mother, that hairline is undoubtedly a male trait as even our 8th and 11th cousins named Harrison have it.
Again thank you for your help in finding anyone who has ever studied this Harrison family tree. We are more interested--in this stage--in confirming where we are from and which big family we are from than in names and dates. We are simply seeking contact with the Harrison family of Caister or Great Plumstead, the one studied in the 1880s by a Hargrave-Harrison who looked at church records (including looking at Chedgrave, where a Harrison was a church clerk). Is no one currently researching the Caister Harrisons of Norfolk County? Has the family died out there? Thank you for your attention to our family.
Polly LYNN
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Norfolk / Re: Rudd children
« on: Saturday 29 April 17 13:31 BST (UK) »
Have you run across a William Harrison Rudd? He was the author of an 1879 article about Harrisons of Great Yarmouth, Notes and Queries. (Notes and Queries, Oxford Press [this is a book, perhaps a bound volume of a periodical] 5th S., 8 February 1879, pages 114-115.) Do you know who his parents were? Thank you.
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Norfolk / Harrisons of Norfolk Co.: near Chedgrave, possibly Great Plumstead and Caister
« on: Saturday 29 April 17 03:37 BST (UK) »
Dear family historians and Harrisons:
Greetings. A DNA test has led me to near-Chedgrave, Norfolk, England, U.K. A 19th century clerk at Chedgrave seems to come from the Hargrave-Harrisons of Great Plumstead and Caister-on-Sea. Or not. At this point anyone related to any Norfolk Harrison family would be of interest to me.
We Harrisons are trying to find out where in England we came from. Just beginning our search in Norfolk (and knowing a relative was from Chedgrave), I am seeking to reconcile on one hand some church brasses in a book (typos and all), Notes and Queries, a family tree sent to the LDS library, the DNA test, and on the other hand genealogical research of the descendants of my Harrison ancestor who left England in the 1600s. In contacting me you would be helping 120 Harrisons in nine branches.
I think that I am not allowed to leave my e-mail address here, so won't. Thank you for replying here; I have specific questions. I appreciate that there is a forum for us. We are happy that our research has led us to Norfolk County.
Warmly,
Polly LYNN
Illinois, U.S.A.
Greetings. A DNA test has led me to near-Chedgrave, Norfolk, England, U.K. A 19th century clerk at Chedgrave seems to come from the Hargrave-Harrisons of Great Plumstead and Caister-on-Sea. Or not. At this point anyone related to any Norfolk Harrison family would be of interest to me.
We Harrisons are trying to find out where in England we came from. Just beginning our search in Norfolk (and knowing a relative was from Chedgrave), I am seeking to reconcile on one hand some church brasses in a book (typos and all), Notes and Queries, a family tree sent to the LDS library, the DNA test, and on the other hand genealogical research of the descendants of my Harrison ancestor who left England in the 1600s. In contacting me you would be helping 120 Harrisons in nine branches.
I think that I am not allowed to leave my e-mail address here, so won't. Thank you for replying here; I have specific questions. I appreciate that there is a forum for us. We are happy that our research has led us to Norfolk County.
Warmly,
Polly LYNN
Illinois, U.S.A.
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Down / DNA test results arrived for Harrisons of County Down
« on: Friday 28 April 17 16:45 BST (UK) »
DNA tests from December 2016 show this week that the following four or five Harrison families are related to each other and none is related to me!
(1) Bleary, Down. They appear to go back to Seagoe Parish, Armagh.
(2) Ballydugan, Down. They appear to go back to Seagoe Parish.
(3) Clare, Down.
(4) Corcreeny, Down. A James Harrison died there in 1727.
In possibly Seagoe Parish there was a James Harrison of Moyraverty in 1662 and he is worth looking at.
These four above are the same DNA haplogroup as (5) Hillsborough, Magheradartin, and Blaris Harrisons, County Down. However, I am not sure that #5 and 1-4 are closely related. That should be checked.
As for me, I am none of the above. I come from the Harrisons of a different haplogourp. We were also from County Down: from Ballynahinch (Magheradrool Parish), Ballymacaramery in Saintfield Parish, Gransha (Bangor Parish but we are NOT NEWTOWNARDS Harrisons) and Ballylone. Those all are my family. My people are brother or first cousin to Isaiah Harrison (b. 1666) of Oyster Bay, New York, and Delaware, and Virginia who, in my opinion, must have been born somewhere in Ireland, not as is weedily thought in Chester, England. My family of Harrisons have recently had a DNA match to a family from Chedgrave, Norfolk County, England, U.K., so are just starting to look at Harrison families related to the family tree of Harrisons researched by a Hargrave Harrison in the Norfolk area.
Thank you to all on this forum who helped us pice together the Harrison families of Donaghcloney and Tullylish parish in Down and Seagoe Parish in Armagh.
(1) Bleary, Down. They appear to go back to Seagoe Parish, Armagh.
(2) Ballydugan, Down. They appear to go back to Seagoe Parish.
(3) Clare, Down.
(4) Corcreeny, Down. A James Harrison died there in 1727.
In possibly Seagoe Parish there was a James Harrison of Moyraverty in 1662 and he is worth looking at.
These four above are the same DNA haplogroup as (5) Hillsborough, Magheradartin, and Blaris Harrisons, County Down. However, I am not sure that #5 and 1-4 are closely related. That should be checked.
As for me, I am none of the above. I come from the Harrisons of a different haplogourp. We were also from County Down: from Ballynahinch (Magheradrool Parish), Ballymacaramery in Saintfield Parish, Gransha (Bangor Parish but we are NOT NEWTOWNARDS Harrisons) and Ballylone. Those all are my family. My people are brother or first cousin to Isaiah Harrison (b. 1666) of Oyster Bay, New York, and Delaware, and Virginia who, in my opinion, must have been born somewhere in Ireland, not as is weedily thought in Chester, England. My family of Harrisons have recently had a DNA match to a family from Chedgrave, Norfolk County, England, U.K., so are just starting to look at Harrison families related to the family tree of Harrisons researched by a Hargrave Harrison in the Norfolk area.
Thank you to all on this forum who helped us pice together the Harrison families of Donaghcloney and Tullylish parish in Down and Seagoe Parish in Armagh.
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Down / Re: Harrison in Corcreeny, Donaghcloney, births registered in Waringstown
« on: Monday 06 February 17 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.
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Ireland / Re: Traditional Irish Naming Patterns- Why No Sticky Thread ?
« on: Monday 06 February 17 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Dear Kob,
Interesting topic, traditional Irish naming patterns. Here in the States my friend and colleague who was a genealogist told me about the Irish naming tradition. What he told me has worked. He told m that Protestants and Catholics alike followed this pattern:
1. eldest son was named for its paternal grandfather
2. second son was named for its father (unless the father had been name for his father)
3. third son was named for its father's eldest brother (unless the father was the eldest son)
4. fourth and fifth sons were named for father's favorite brothers
Also if a son died, he was replaced. For example if he first baby Valentine died, he was replaced the next time a son was born.
In this way, sons are named for the father's family only. Daughters are named for the other's family only. The sons were not typically named for the mothers' family, unless her family gave lots of money or land or jobs to the married couple.
The above naming pattern has worked for me on my Irish Presbyterian family in Ireland through the early 1900s and in New York state through the first generation.
Interesting topic, traditional Irish naming patterns. Here in the States my friend and colleague who was a genealogist told me about the Irish naming tradition. What he told me has worked. He told m that Protestants and Catholics alike followed this pattern:
1. eldest son was named for its paternal grandfather
2. second son was named for its father (unless the father had been name for his father)
3. third son was named for its father's eldest brother (unless the father was the eldest son)
4. fourth and fifth sons were named for father's favorite brothers
Also if a son died, he was replaced. For example if he first baby Valentine died, he was replaced the next time a son was born.
In this way, sons are named for the father's family only. Daughters are named for the other's family only. The sons were not typically named for the mothers' family, unless her family gave lots of money or land or jobs to the married couple.
The above naming pattern has worked for me on my Irish Presbyterian family in Ireland through the early 1900s and in New York state through the first generation.
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The Lighter Side / Re: Family legends that turn out to be nonsense
« on: Wednesday 21 December 16 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Family legend? One false and one true.
Several branches of my Harrison family tree were told we were related to the two U.S. presidents named Harrison. As a teenager I donated money to the family house and was told I was not a relative and thank you for the donation.
Three of nine branches say we go back in Ireland to Oliver Cromwell who was there 1649-1650. I did not believe it until this year we are doing DNA tests. If we match any of the four test takers we will have traced back to a tax-paying farmer in 1662. It is not long in time from 1662 Ireland to 1650. Could be true.
Several branches of my Harrison family tree were told we were related to the two U.S. presidents named Harrison. As a teenager I donated money to the family house and was told I was not a relative and thank you for the donation.
Three of nine branches say we go back in Ireland to Oliver Cromwell who was there 1649-1650. I did not believe it until this year we are doing DNA tests. If we match any of the four test takers we will have traced back to a tax-paying farmer in 1662. It is not long in time from 1662 Ireland to 1650. Could be true.
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The Lighter Side / Re: Family Relations (How you can tell from a photo) & Is it true?
« on: Wednesday 21 December 16 20:30 GMT (UK) »
We have been DNA testing Harrison men and even if someone is a ninth cousin I see the same hairline. It is shaped like an n . Balding patterns pass through women's DNA, but this hairline must be a male trait.