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Family History Beginners Board / Kane of Shuttle Hill Coleraine 1890s onwards
« on: Monday 14 February 22 19:32 GMT (UK)  »
I have an Ancestry substantial DNA match with a person originally from Giant's Causeway (Aird) North Antrim, on my paternal side.  Whilst I cannot say this is impossible it is unlikely and my match is adamant that it is wrong!  Paternal side lived in Shuttle Hill Coleraine in the late 1800s and as I think my married great uncle fathered a child to have this size of match possibly with a neighbour, a Mary Kane nee Martin in 1914.  I think she was Scottish, and her husband Alexander, a tailor was from a line of Kane/McKillip from Killowen (though those are Bushmills names I can find no connection).  Mrs Kane had a baby girl Annie Jane in a house at the Aird at the same time as an Aird girl had a daughter Winifred- she was Lizzie known as Stirling or McCollum.  Lizzie had several children which I believe her mother reared as her own, including this 1914 arrival. I think these babies were perhaps mixed up as this could explain the DNA match - Kane's baby stayed with Lizzie's mother?  Six months later we learn of the Kanes living in Belfast (quite a move for Killowen people) and Mary Kane dies at that point of TB. Alexander remarries and has two more children but Annie Jane born at Aird is not listed in their family per Wikitree (all else checks out including his profession as a tailor).   I would appreciate it if anyone can tell what became of Annie Jane or if anyone can help explain why what appears to be a dying, pregnant woman went to a house at the Aird to have her baby.  My DNA match who connects to the child Winifred who remained with McCollums/Purdys has no idea of these distressing twists - lives overseas.

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Antrim / Re: Gordon of the Coal Yard Ballymoney
« on: Wednesday 24 November 21 16:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Aghadowey, makes sense now as this agrees better with the press statement, was unable to open this link last night, all good now.

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Antrim / Re: Gordon of the Coal Yard Ballymoney
« on: Tuesday 23 November 21 23:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you to all who made valuable contributions to my search for info on this family.    Yes, it would seem that Samuel Boyd Gordon was neither 40 as his gravestone suggests on his death in 1964, or 42 as the press report.  I have found his birth recorded to Nancy and James Gordon 7 May 1919.  I know from past experience that a year or two in either direction seemed to suffice for birthdays back in the day.  He seems to have been their fourth child, not fifth. I had already traced James and Nancy back to him being the son of Wm James of Kirkfields who married Ellen Booth of Kirkhills in 1885, and his father was James.  I also was considering a line from Hugh and Selina Boyd Gordon, because of the Boyd addition to the name but this now is irrelevant, though this line is to my DNA match.  My Great Grandfather John Gordon born 1864 appears to have had an Uncle James born 1834 who married late per my DNA match  on Ancestry, they were from near the Dark Hedges, so I conclude that I am most likely related to Gordons of the coal yard through him.   It was the Telegraph death announcement that provided the info that put it all into place, and this was a paper I never would have delved into for local affairs, usually looking up old Chronicles and Constitutions. I had not wanted to go into the area involving Samuel Boyd Gordon's children's deaths as the person who contacted me seeking the family link shared fairly sensitive info on the sad conditions that prevailed for these young people.  Thank you all who contributed - some useful info on GRONI may help others too.

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Antrim / Re: Gordon of the Coal Yard Ballymoney
« on: Monday 22 November 21 17:01 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks.  We seem to be on the correct family per Billion Graves which ties in with this report.  I am interested in two generations back, ie the deceased man's grandfather who may connect with mine.  His father may have been James.

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Antrim / Re: Gordon of the Coal Yard Ballymoney
« on: Monday 22 November 21 11:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you.  These  records indeed are my folks.  Now seeking connections elsewhere, starting with possible links to the coal yard.  Have learned from Billion Graves and another correspondent just now that the coal yard Gordons may have included a Samuel Boyd Gordon who had two youngish adult children James Andrew and Odette deceased in recent times.  This does not prove a link to my folks as Andrew and Odette not traditional Gordon names.

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Antrim / Gordon of the Coal Yard Ballymoney
« on: Monday 22 November 21 10:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I am the Grand-daughter of John Gordon of Topp Ballymoney, 1994 - 1961 and have not really much info on his family other than that he had a brother James.   I am told there was a Coal Yard on Meeting House Street, Ballymoney in years gone by run by a James Gordon who possibly died in an accident near Balnamore and had a son Robert.  I don't think this was a brother but would be interested in any info on this family to see if James may have been a cousin or nephew.  I also learned there was a James Gordon at Bendooragh, who died just a few years back who was some degree of cousin.  Any info appreciated.
 

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Charles Scott, Ballynian/Ballylame Garvagh
« on: Wednesday 25 August 21 17:31 BST (UK)  »
Thank KG, great news that we don't have to wait 100 years to see the marriages like the births!

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Charles Scott, Ballynian/Ballylame Garvagh
« on: Tuesday 24 August 21 08:41 BST (UK)  »
Lewis Scott was my mother-in-law's closest cousin.  She visited him in Lisbellaw with his wife Annie right up until I think Annie's death, he was Charles's son of Ballylame, went overseas and had come home.  We though we had him all accounted for.  Seemingly not!  I cannot find a birth reg for him, he shows on 1911 census as being aged 6.  The only birth I can find in Charles' family that we cannot account for is that of a Francis James born to Charlie and he then disappears, not even on census - he might have had a name change to Lewis.  A child born to Charles and his second wife later was called James.  I learned Lewis married a Martha Wallace in 1st Kilrea Pres Church 1926, so she must have died, and Annie seems to be his second wife.  I discovered on his father's obituary that he was living near Stewartstown in 1937 tying in with my mother-in-law talking about his burial at Brigh Presbyterian, I do not know when.  If anyone ever heard of this gentleman and can confirm my thoughts especially re name change, or know about the two wives would be very interested.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Charles Scott, Ballynian/Ballylame Garvagh
« on: Thursday 19 August 21 20:11 BST (UK)  »
Aghadowey, thank you so much, this has made a seemingly impossible task look easy!

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