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Lanarkshire / Place of birth on 1881 census - Carberry
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 02:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, looking for some assistance on the place of birth for the bottom four entries seen on the snippet.

It's for a household of women by the name of Carberry, they were living at 53 Commercial Road, Govan in 1881.

Transcriptions state that it is "Commonlay Formanach"  and similar. This includes the LDS index on SP. I can't work it out.

I definitely think the first letter is an "F" due to it being the same as the F in "Foundry Labourer" further up the page.

It's possible it's somewhere in Fermanagh? Mary Ann aged 17 was married in a Catholic church in 1885.


Angus (Forfarshire) / "Clepanton"? in the parish of Forfar. THOM
« on: Friday 28 August 20 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello, looking for some assistance regarding this place mentioned in the Parish of Forfar.
It's from a baptism in 1742 for Ann Thom, daughter of William Thom.
The entry below has the same place mentioned. I can't find any reference to a place with this name or a similar name. It might have gone by the time OS maps came around.


Edit; I had considered "Clepington" which is in modern day Dundee, but this baptism is listed at Forfar itself and daughter Ann remained in Forfar and was living at Turfbeg at the time of her marriage.

Angus (Forfarshire) / Mary Evans in 1841?
« on: Thursday 23 July 20 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi, looking for some assistance in locating my 4x ggm in the 1841 census.

Mary Evans was born 1827, Inverkeilor. She dies 1879 at Echt, Aberdeenshire. Her parents are James Evans and Mary Cloudsley.

Her parents and 2 sisters are at Milton of Farnell in 1841 as follows;
James Evans, 45
Mary Evans, 50
Ann Evans, 20
Jane Evans, 11

Her parents, James Evans and Mary Cloudsley have the following children
Ann Addison, 1820  Guthrie
Alexander, 1822  Maryton
William, 1823   Maryton
Jane, 1829    Farnell
Mary, 1827 Inverkeilor

Mary marries George Easton 1846 at Brechin.

I can't find her on Scotland's People, FreeCen or anywhere else.

Any help appreciated.


The Common Room / When people don't provide important details they already know
« on: Thursday 09 July 20 15:45 BST (UK)  »
This is nothing to do with anyone here, but it's just a general rant.

I'm in a few genealogy groups across various mediums. Today, I have spent the best part of an hour and a half doing some research for someone only to find that they already knew what I had found out.

They were looking for information on someone, and they had posted their birth record and that they couldn't find anything else about them after this.

I had found comprehensive information about the child's mother, grandparents, siblings and other circumstances. I had searched various resources including records from other countries and cross-referencing with other records.

I am quite happy to do this when someone is truly stuck. I love research and I also enjoy helping people where I am able to do so.

I then check a well known public family tree site and discover the person asking information (they had the same picture and name across both sites) had already found out everything I had spent the last hour and a half researching. I could've spent that time looking into my own tree or helping someone else.

I understand if someone is new to research, but this individual has a well researched and evidenced tree.

All it takes is a few extra sentences of "they were here on this date, their children were here..." etc.

I deleted my response in the end.

I also should've checked the other well known site first before diving in so blame is partly on me for not doing so.

Please, anyone new or old to research please include as much information as you can to save people researching what you already know. I have been guilty of this in the past as a newcomer, but it is important to consider other people's time.
Thank you!

Aberdeenshire / Mary Gordon Anderson missing in 1911
« on: Saturday 20 June 20 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Looking for some help in locating Mary Gordon Anderson in the 1911 census.
Also unsure if I have the right Mary in the 1901 census.

Here is what I have so far;

Mary Gordon Anderson is born 1871 in Turriff, Aberdeenshire.
Her parents are Francis Anderson and Ann Hutcheon.

Mary G. Anderson dies 1942 at Donview Road, Aberdeen. Usual residence, King Street, Aberdeen.
She never marries and is noted as being single on her DC.

I have her in the following census;


50 Balmellie Street, Turriff.

Francis Anderson, widow, 51, Quarryman, born Gamrie, Banffshire
Francis Anderson, son, 20, Tailor, born Turriff
Robert Anderson, son, 14, Tinsmith, born Turriff
Barbara Anderson, daur, 18, born Turriff
Margaret Anderson, daur, 11, scholar, born Turriff
Mary G. Anderson, daur, 9, scholar, born Turriff
Isabella F. Anderson, daur, 5, born Turriff


Queen Street, Woodside, Aberdeen

Head of household is a Robert Hall, 46, Chemist and Druggist with his family.
Mary Anderson, 19, domestic servant, born Turriff


I think this is my Mary

3 Rubislaw Den North, Glenburnie Park, Aberdeen

Head of household is a William Mackinnon, stock broker, born Aberdeen
Mary (L?) Anderson, 30, cook domestic, born Turriff

She is indexed as Mary L Anderson here on SP. I don't think it is an "L" though. Will attach snip of census image. The "L" looks to be the same symbol as above for the "ditto"?

After this, I'm not sure where she would be in 1911.

Any help appreciated, although I know the name is quite common.

Aberdeenshire / What is this place name on a baptism in Aberdour? 1756
« on: Saturday 13 June 20 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Struggling to read the place named on this baptism entry for Christian Bruce.

I initially thought it might be Cuminestown, but on looking it up it doesn't appear to be in or have ever been in Aberdour parish.

Any help appreciated.

Hi everyone, looking for some help with a close match of my mum's.

My mum has tested with My Heritage, one of her closest matches is with an RM at 223.3 cM.

RM was adoped, RM's son manages the accounts and he states that RM knows who his birth mother is and knows her ancestry. When comparing RM's birth mother's ancestry with my own maternal side there is a common ancestor, but it's quite far back for a match of 223.3 cM.

The common ancestors are my mum's 3x great-grandparents. This doesn't seem right for a match of that size, but I could be wrong.

It's entirely possible that my mum matches RM elsewhere (even on his birth father, of which they have no information), her ancestry is heavily localised. In fact, my mum and dad share common ancestors as well, and I have found matches with myself who match my mum and dad on separate chromosomes.

Any help appreciated.

EDIT: I suppose it's possible that we share more than one common ancestor making the match with RM appear closer than it really is. I know it's relatively rare, but I have already experienced this with another match (not related to RM) where they match my mum on one chromosome and my dad on another and they don't share mutuals.

Angus (Forfarshire) / Mary Jane Evans Stewart - Where is she in 1901?
« on: Saturday 15 February 20 03:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone.

Looking for my great-grandmother in the 1901 Census.

Here is a link to a previous thread about her;

Mary Jane Evans Stewart was born Oct 1886 at Newbigging, Montrose, Angus. Her parents were John Stewart and Mary Stott.

Mary J E had an illegitimate child named Charles McKenzie, 1903 at Inchock, Inverkeilor, Angus. She later went on to marry another man named Norman Campbell. They married in Glasgow and Mary J E is living in Glasgow in the 1911 Census. Her son Charles McKenzie was brought up his maternal grandparents John Stewart and Mary Stott. He never went to Glasgow with his mother.

I have the following siblings for Mary J E

Robert                b 1889 died 1895
John                   b 1891 Farnell
Jessie Ann           b 1894 Inverkeilor
Robina                b 1896 Inverkeilor
Jemima               b 1898 Inverkeilor
Francis                b 1900 Inverkeilor

I don't know if Mary J E was still local to Angus in 1901 or if she was in Glasgow or elsewhere. But unfortunately the name "Mary Stewart" would be one of the most common names in Scotland at the time.

This may be unsolvable due to the name but asking for help meantime.

Thank you.

Aberdeenshire / What happened to Sophia Robertson Anderson?
« on: Wednesday 05 February 20 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
My 3x great-aunt Elizabeth aka Eliza Anderson b.1846 Gamrie had a daughter in Aberdeen. The daughter was illegitimate and named Sophia Robertson Anderson, she was born Sept 1877.

Another Sophia Anderson was born in Aberdeen in 1876, unconnected to me.

My Sophia is in the 1881 census at Upper Denburn Aberdeen with her family as follows;

Annabella aka Isabella Anderson 64 (age ~10 years out) - Grandmother
Eliza Anderson 33 - Mother
Isabella Anderson 14 - Sister
Maggie Anderson 6 - Sister

Her mother Eliza/Elizabeth marries a William Douglas a widower in 1884 at Monthammock, Durris, Kincardineshire.

There is a Sophia Anderson, 14, in the 1891 Census at 59 North Broadford, Aberdeen. The head of the household is Sophia Ogg and is the Aunt of Sophia Anderson.

However, the aunt isn't a relation as I checked the Marriage Cert between Sophia Anderson and Alexander Ogg and compared that with census data, and it appears this Sophia is the one born 1876 and not my Sophia.

Her mother Eliza/Elizabeth Douglas m.s Anderson dies in 1913 at Bruce Court, Stonehaven.

I can't find any of them in the 1891 Census.

In 1901 Elizabeth/Eliza is at Skinner Cottage, Durris, Kincardineshire with

Robert Douglas, 11, son
John Robbie,  6, grandchild
Lizzie Robbie, 4, grandchild
Robert Douglas, 68, brother-in-law

But I can't seem to find any trace of Sophia Robertson Anderson anywhere after 1881.

Any help appreciated.

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