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Aberdeenshire / What is this place name on a baptism in Aberdour? 1756
« on: Saturday 13 June 20 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Struggling to read the place named on this baptism entry for Christian Bruce.

I initially thought it might be Cuminestown, but on looking it up it doesn't appear to be in or have ever been in Aberdour parish.

Any help appreciated.

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Hi everyone, looking for some help with a close match of my mum's.

My mum has tested with My Heritage, one of her closest matches is with an RM at 223.3 cM.

RM was adoped, RM's son manages the accounts and he states that RM knows who his birth mother is and knows her ancestry. When comparing RM's birth mother's ancestry with my own maternal side there is a common ancestor, but it's quite far back for a match of 223.3 cM.

The common ancestors are my mum's 3x great-grandparents. This doesn't seem right for a match of that size, but I could be wrong.

It's entirely possible that my mum matches RM elsewhere (even on his birth father, of which they have no information), her ancestry is heavily localised. In fact, my mum and dad share common ancestors as well, and I have found matches with myself who match my mum and dad on separate chromosomes.

Any help appreciated.

EDIT: I suppose it's possible that we share more than one common ancestor making the match with RM appear closer than it really is. I know it's relatively rare, but I have already experienced this with another match (not related to RM) where they match my mum on one chromosome and my dad on another and they don't share mutuals.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Mary Jane Evans Stewart - Where is she in 1901?
« on: Saturday 15 February 20 03:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone.

Looking for my great-grandmother in the 1901 Census.

Here is a link to a previous thread about her; https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=782799.0

Mary Jane Evans Stewart was born Oct 1886 at Newbigging, Montrose, Angus. Her parents were John Stewart and Mary Stott.

Mary J E had an illegitimate child named Charles McKenzie, 1903 at Inchock, Inverkeilor, Angus. She later went on to marry another man named Norman Campbell. They married in Glasgow and Mary J E is living in Glasgow in the 1911 Census. Her son Charles McKenzie was brought up his maternal grandparents John Stewart and Mary Stott. He never went to Glasgow with his mother.

I have the following siblings for Mary J E

Robert                b 1889 died 1895
John                   b 1891 Farnell
Jessie Ann           b 1894 Inverkeilor
Robina                b 1896 Inverkeilor
Jemima               b 1898 Inverkeilor
Francis                b 1900 Inverkeilor

I don't know if Mary J E was still local to Angus in 1901 or if she was in Glasgow or elsewhere. But unfortunately the name "Mary Stewart" would be one of the most common names in Scotland at the time.

This may be unsolvable due to the name but asking for help meantime.

Thank you.

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Aberdeenshire / What happened to Sophia Robertson Anderson?
« on: Wednesday 05 February 20 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
My 3x great-aunt Elizabeth aka Eliza Anderson b.1846 Gamrie had a daughter in Aberdeen. The daughter was illegitimate and named Sophia Robertson Anderson, she was born Sept 1877.

Another Sophia Anderson was born in Aberdeen in 1876, unconnected to me.

My Sophia is in the 1881 census at Upper Denburn Aberdeen with her family as follows;

Annabella aka Isabella Anderson 64 (age ~10 years out) - Grandmother
Eliza Anderson 33 - Mother
Isabella Anderson 14 - Sister
Maggie Anderson 6 - Sister

Her mother Eliza/Elizabeth marries a William Douglas a widower in 1884 at Monthammock, Durris, Kincardineshire.

There is a Sophia Anderson, 14, in the 1891 Census at 59 North Broadford, Aberdeen. The head of the household is Sophia Ogg and is the Aunt of Sophia Anderson.

However, the aunt isn't a relation as I checked the Marriage Cert between Sophia Anderson and Alexander Ogg and compared that with census data, and it appears this Sophia is the one born 1876 and not my Sophia.

Her mother Eliza/Elizabeth Douglas m.s Anderson dies in 1913 at Bruce Court, Stonehaven.

I can't find any of them in the 1891 Census.

In 1901 Elizabeth/Eliza is at Skinner Cottage, Durris, Kincardineshire with

Robert Douglas, 11, son
John Robbie,  6, grandchild
Lizzie Robbie, 4, grandchild
Robert Douglas, 68, brother-in-law

But I can't seem to find any trace of Sophia Robertson Anderson anywhere after 1881.

Any help appreciated.




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Angus (Forfarshire) / Both in Barvie Parish? GUILD/MORGAN
« on: Tuesday 04 February 20 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all.

Just been looking at the OPR marriage for my 5x great-grandparents Alexander Guild and Jean Morgan in 1804. This is recorded in Dundee.

I'm puzzled by the name of the parish they were both residing in at the time. It won't be Bervie which is much further north and wouldn't imagine they would marry in Dundee if they lived there.

Could it be a corruption of Benvie perhaps?


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Issue with mutual matches
« on: Monday 03 February 20 17:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all.

Wondering if anyone can help me with an issue that seems to keep happening on various DNA testing sites.

I have done tests with Ancestry, 23andMe and Living DNA. I have uploaded my DNA data to My Heritage, GEDmatch and FTDNA. My mother has tested with My Heritage recently.

I have a match who I will name as GC. We talk regularly via email and have done since last summer. At present we have not identified where we match. I have the feeling there is a NPE that is confusing matters. I initially did DNA to find my unknown 2x great grandfather. Unfortunately this hasn't succeeded at this stage.

We have quite a lot of mutual matches, many with Irish ancestry so we feel it comes from there.

There is a problem, and I don't know if this is a common problem.

I match GC with ~40cM. My mum matches GC at ~10cM

My maternal first cousin has tested with 23andMe and GC is showing as a mutual match with him. My cousin matches GC with 0.13% shared DNA which translates to approx 9.62cM. However my first cousin is not showing up as a match for GC at all.

There are other cases of this happening elsewhere, and with matches who have a decent match size with us. One matches me on GEDmatch at ~22 cM. He is a mutual and a triangulation with GC and myself. GC confirms this man is also on Ancestry and shows as a match for him there. However, on Ancestry for me this other person is nowhere to be seen. There are others like this across many sites.

I match GC on Chr 2 and 20. My mother matches GC on Chr 2 only. She does not match anyone of GC and I's mutual Chr 20 matches. GC suggests that it's possible Chr 2 is a mutual maternal match and Chr 20 is paternal. Which is possible, the majority of my ancestry on both sides are from quite condensed areas.

It's all very puzzling and feel it's hampering us solving where GC and I match.





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Hello, looking for some help in deciphering the mother's name on this Scottish death certificate. Here is the info that I know;

The deceased is;
Neil Lynch, Hotel Keeper, (married to Margaret Crawford McCormack)

Date and place of death;
25th June 1877, Station Hotel, Stonehaven, Fetteresso

Sex
M

Age
65 years

Father and Mother's names/profession
John Lynch, Carpenter
.
.
.
______ Lynch m.s. (maiden surname) ________

Cause of death
Uraemia
___ convulsions
3 days



Any help appreciated in deciphering his mother's first and maiden names.

Many thanks







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Scotland / Where is Flora CAMERON in 1891?
« on: Saturday 16 November 19 17:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone.

I'm looking for some help in locating my 3x great-grandmother Flora Cameron m.s. Stewart in the 1891 census. I decided to put this request in the Scotland section as she may be anywhere due to the amount of travelling the family did.

Flora was born circa 1816 in Redcastle, Ross & Cromarty. She died in December 1891 at Hamilton Green, Arbroath, Angus (Forfarshire). So she will have been alive at the time the census of 1891 was taken.

Her parents as named on her DC were John Stewart and Flora Grant. I don't have any further info on her parents.

Flora Stewart marries husband Duncan Cameron in 1834 at Killearnan, Ross & Cromarty. After this date, the family were in various locations across Scotland in the subsequent censuses.

Here are the children I have for Duncan and Flora;

Fin(d)ly b. abt 1835, Inverness.
Flora b. 1837, Inverness.
Elizabeth b. abt 1845, Burntisland, Fife
Margaret b. abt 1847, Burntisland, Fife
Mary b. abt 1848, Burntisland, Fife
John b. abt 1851, Burntisland, Fife
Jane b. abt 1854, Aberdeen
Catherine b. abt 1857, Keith, Banffshire (I haven't been able to find a birth record for Catherine despite her being born post civil registration)

I have the family in the following census;

1841

High Street, Linlithgow, West Lothian

Duncan, 30 occupation Labourer
Flora, 25

and their 2 children; Finlay and Flora.

1851

6 Petty Road, Kinghorn, Fife.

Duncan, 40 occupation "Maltster"
Flora, 40

and their 6 children; Finlay, Flora, Elizabeth, Margaret and Mary.


1861

Village of Maryburgh, Dingwall, Ross & Cromarty

Duncan, 53 occupation "Railway Labourer"
Flora, 48

and their 5 children, Finlay, John, Margaret, Jane and Catherine.
Also a grandchild, David Robertson, 2, born Keith, Banffshire - This is daughter Flora's son.


1871

Grange of Barry, Old Manse, Angus

Duncan, 60, an Ag Lab
Flora, 55
Jane (daughter), 18
David Robertson (grandchild), 12


1881

15 Ernest Street, Arbroath, Angus

Duncan, 72, an Ag Lab
Flora, 61

Duncan dies in May 1882 at 15 Ernest Street, Arbroath. Confirmed as husband of Flora Stewart. Parents named as Finlay Cameron (Pendicler in Inverness) and Margaret Grant.

I can't find Flora in the 1891 census at all. I have checked the following entries on Scotland's People and I don't feel they are a good match for my Flora;

Flora Cameron, 75 - Inverness Burgh.
Head is this Flora's son; Alexander Cameron. A Bank accountant born Ardnamurchan, Inverness.

Flora Cameron, 70 - Little Scatwell, Contin, Ross & Cromarty
"unmarried" as opposed to widow. Occupation "Cook".
Also in household is sister Catherine, 60 also a Cook.
Both noted as being born in Contin, Ross & Cromarty.

Flora Cameron, 75 - Culcairn, Rosskeen, Ross & Cromarty
Head is this Flora's brother; Murdo Cameron, 59 a Crofter born "Strath..., Ross" (maybe Strathconon, hard to make out)
Sister Flora is noted as being born in the same location.


Murdo speaks English and Gaelic, Flora is noted is speaking Gaelic only. This puts me off thinking this is my Flora as she lived in West Lothian, Fife, Banffshire and Angus over her lifetime and I would've thought speaking Gaelic only would've limited her ability to interact with locals in the lowlands.

I'm quite keen to find Flora in the 1891 Census to see if she did indeed speak Gaelic given where she was born and brought up.

Any help appreciated.

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Scotland / Scots Law, Bankruptcy and "Examinations"? 1880
« on: Sunday 03 November 19 17:08 GMT (UK)  »
I found a newspaper article in relation to my 2x great-grandfather; William Adam of Fisherford Farm, Fordoun Parish, Kincardineshire. It is dated September 1880.

Just looking for some general help on understanding what it means. Tried Google and just got more confused and it seemed to relate to more modern acts.

The title of the article is "SCOTCH BANKRUPTS" ** 

There are two sections in the article;

"Sequestrations" and
"Examinations"

William Adam appears in the Examinations section. The article doesn't give any info past his name, residence and date of the "Examination". I know what sequestration is, but not examination.

Any help appreciated.


**side note, I dislike the use of the word "Scotch" to relate to Scots people, but it seemed to be in use back then as I've seen it often.


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