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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Swans in Hadstock
« on: Wednesday 21 November 18 12:32 GMT (UK)  »
So, from the census ages it seems like William was born 1807 to Robert and Mary and Sarah was born 1807 to John and Jane

The removal document is 1 page long, I just had another look, it basically says they didn't produce a certificate and they didn't gain a legal settlement. I didn't understand the reasons.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Swans in Hadstock
« on: Wednesday 21 November 18 12:00 GMT (UK)  »
It makes sense re the census ages.

On the 1851 Census (the one you are referring to?) they are also living next to John and Jane Swan (are they from the other Swan family I wonder?) It seems they all lived in close proximity to each other

The removal order says that
William, Sarah and their daughter Lucy were removed from Hadstock for ‘not having gained a legal
settlement there, nor having produced any certificate acknowledging them to be settled elsewhere’.

 

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Family History Beginners Board / William Swans in Hadstock
« on: Wednesday 21 November 18 11:25 GMT (UK)  »
Could anyone help please?

There were 2 William Swans born in Hadstock around the same time
1. b.1807 to Robert Swan and Mary (Scotcher)
2. b.1806 to Samuel Swan and Mary (Bye)

one William married Sarah (also with the surname Swan) in 1827 Hadstock
the other married Rebecca Pearson 1829

I'm interested in the one that married Sarah. They were given a removal order in 1829 and moved to Woodditton in Cambridgeshire.

There were also 3 Sarah Swans born around the same time
1. b.1804 to Robert Swan and Mary Scotcher
2. b.1806 to John Swan and Alice Marsh
3. b.1807 to John Swan and Jane Free

How do I confirm which William and which Sarah?
I checked on SEAX website a while ago (I signed up for a week's membership) and no details of the marriage records came up.

Thank you

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Berkshire / Re: James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum
« on: Thursday 04 October 18 10:42 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I will keep researching to see what I can find. Thank you

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Berkshire / Re: James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum
« on: Wednesday 03 October 18 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Sloe Gin on Tuesday 02 October 18 21:23 BST (UK)
Just a minute .....

Quote from: rosie99 on Sunday 30 September 18 13:40 BST (UK)
James & Sarah (Stanmore)  baptise a daughter Betty at Blewberry in 1809
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSJN-J8D

Could this be the Elizabeth that married Jacob?  She gives Blewbury as her birthplace in the 1861 census and she is the right age. 
And a Stanmore connection.
Sarah Stanmore's parents were William and Mary.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWD8-9S9
Bingo!  I bet Mary's her grandmother.

There were also Stanmore families in East Ilsley.  But this James Deacon wasn't baptised there - up to 1812 there are only the three we have already discussed.

Yes, that looks like it, thank you

There seems to be an incredible amount of Deacons in the area. I know people often married within the family anyway, but this seems to be a lot, especially for what looks like a small parish...there's 3 marriages between Deacons (probably more)

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Berkshire / Re: James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum
« on: Tuesday 02 October 18 16:54 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, that is brilliant.

It is good to know that the couple William and Mary Ann are first cousins. It was my first thought, but I didn't know how to confirm it.

The other thing I am trying to figure out is a marriage or name of a spouse.

A son of James and Sarah Harris - Jacob Deacon b.1810 with an Elizabeth (unknown maiden name) has possibly 12 children....

1834 – Martha Deacon christened 5th January, East Ilsey
1835 – William Deacon christened 11th October, East Ilsey
1837 – Mary Deacon christened 26th March, she dies age 7 in 1844, buried 8th December, St Mary, f – labourer
1839 – Elizabeth Deacon born, mmn – Deacon, she dies age 5 in 1844, East Ilsey, buried 8th December
1841 – Sarah Deacon born, she dies age 3 in 1844, buried 9th December
1842 – Hannah/ Ann  Deacon
1844 – Alfred Deacon born (Deacon)
1846 – Rebecca Deacon christened 31st May, St Mary’s Church, East Ilsey, Father – Labourer
1848 – Tryphena Deacon christened 13th August, St Mary,  Jacob and Elizabeth, labourer, mmn - Deacon
1850 – Abraham Deacon born (mmn – Deacon)
1852 – Harriet Deacon christened 29th August, St Mary, East Ilsey, Father – Jacob Deacon, labourer, residence – Worldsend, Hampstead Norreys  (mmn – Deacon)
1855 – Sarah Ann Deacon christened 25th March, Sutton Courtenay

I checked on GRO and some of them list the mother's maiden name as Deacon, I haven't found a marriage yet between Jacob and Elizabeth

They appear on the 1841 Census with a Mary Stanmore (age 80), but there doesn't seem to be other links (yet)

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Berkshire / Re: James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum
« on: Sunday 30 September 18 14:17 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Rosie, I did see that...trying to keep up with it all and understand it. Thank you for your help.

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Berkshire / Re: James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum
« on: Sunday 30 September 18 13:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Annette, that clarifies a few things. For some reason I was unable to find the baptism records

Rosie99 - thanks, I need to bear that in mind - unless I see factual evidence like a gravestone.

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Berkshire / Re: James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum
« on: Sunday 30 September 18 13:47 BST (UK)  »
so, a general question...why are there errors among different sources?

I understand that ages in censuses vary, so why does the findagrave site list Henry and Amos as children? when it is quite likely that they have different parents.


This investigation stems from a marriage between William Deacon and Mary Ann Deacon, they both share the grandparents - James and Sarah.

William and Mary Ann have a son Joseph Butler Deacon b.1874, the GRO says his mother's maiden name is Deacon.

William's father is Jacob b.1810 to James and Sarah
Mary Ann's father is Joseph b.1813 to James and Sarah




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