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Hi there, did you ever get to the bottom of this? He was my step-grandad. As far as I know he was indeed married to a lady called Molly and later was living with my grandmother, Elsie Anstey (nee Goosey) at Curzon Road, Ealing. I only ever knew him as Stephen Murray but know he was born Gerald Lovelock - they are the same person. He and my grandmother married in the 1980s, having been together for decades by that time.

Hello all,

Would anyone know are there any records for marriages at Gretna Green in the 1960s available to view and/or purchase certificates please? Are these classed as 'irregular marriages' and are the certificates also obtainable through the GRO or is there a separate Scottish records office? Apologies - I have had no experience with Scottish records until now

Many thanks in advance,

Amanda

Thank you trish1120 😄

Hello all,

Just a quick update to say all is well and that one of my half siblings and I have now met. A DNA test was done to confirm our suspicions (based on my knowledge of events) and it was as I suspected. Consequently, he and my father’s side of the family have been very welcoming and, for those I haven’t yet met, have been kind enough to make contact with me, make available many photographs and offer to fill in any blanks as regards questions I may have. I will soon meet another of my half siblings and am very much looking forward to that. It is all early days but I feel very positive and (oddly) complete now that I know more about the wider family. I only say oddly because I have only met one of them at this stage; we are taking things slowly, understandably after this revelation!

Anyway, all told so far, I think that this experience has turned out successfully so I just wanted to let you all know.

Many thanks for all your help and your input in getting this far!

Hi davidft, thank you for your response.

From what I can see on the thread, seen in the round, UKWoman would be safe in her assumptions, given that the autosomal DNA results show a familial relationship thus allowing her to fill in the blanks using other methods (looking at family tree/records, etc.). Of course, to be absolutely certain, a paternity test would be necessary, however, the father would need to be living, so not much use to UKWoman (or to me, for that matter) as it could not be practically applied in this case. Also, there are other ways to establish a relationship, otherwise how did we do it before DNA testing? 

Just for clarity, please be assured, it is not ire, just incredulity.