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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Crinkill Military Cemetery
« on: Sunday 17 May 20 23:41 BST (UK)  »
Ah, many thanks.


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Images of 1871 certs are not online yet
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-years-are-covered-by-the-historic-records-of-births-marriages-and-deaths
but will be at some time in the future.
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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Crinkill Military Cemetery
« on: Sunday 17 May 20 17:53 BST (UK)  »


Some of Crinkill Military Cemetery is on Find a Grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/59595914/j-marks
this chap is Lenister Reg so not sure he is the correct J Marks

His death cert confirms his name was John and he was married
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06232/4783892.pdf
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I noticed on this certificate it listed his cause of death, I'm trying to discover the cause of death of my great, great aunt, Sarah Jane Hornsby. She died in Parsonstown in 1871 aged 8.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Crinkill Military Cemetery
« on: Monday 04 November 19 16:30 GMT (UK)  »
My 2nd great Aunt - Sarah Jane Hornsby is listed here -
Birth 15 JAN 1864 • Athlone, Westmeath, Ireland
Death 1 MAR 1872 • Parsonstown, Offaly King's, Ireland

Would anyone know the best way to find a picture of her headstone (other than visiting in person) ?


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Hornsby (Cumberland/Northumberland/Durham)
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:10 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: trish1120 on Wednesday 08 August 18 13:26 BST (UK)
Can we back up a bit please?

Who are you descended from that led you to John Hornsby/Sarah Walton as their Parents?
When/where/who did they marry?

Trish :)
Hi,
I'm related to John's son Joseph (b.1840 Newcastle, married Martha Francis McDowell in 1860 Athlone, Ireland) he's my 2nd great grandfather.

Many thanks for pointing these things out.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Hornsby (Cumberland/Northumberland/Durham)
« on: Tuesday 07 August 18 23:07 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: trish1120 on Tuesday 07 August 18 18:36 BST (UK)
I hadn't looked at Census entries for John before and just have and I must say I am confused.

1851 Census we have;
Westgate, Northumberland
John HORNSBY, 54, Head, Mar, Clerk to Iron Founder, born Northd, Benton
Sarah Hornsby, 37, Wife, Mar, born Northd, Newton on the Moore
Adolph Ewphotey, 21

1851 we also have;
Heworth, Durham
Sarah Hamsley, 50, Head, WIDOW**, Housekeeper (Pauper) born Alston, Cumberland***
Ann Hamsley, 23, Daug, born Alston
Matthew Hamsley, 20, Son, born Alston
Elizabeth Hamsley, 17, Daug, born Northumberland
Sarah Hamsley, 13, Daug, born Northumberland
Joseph Hamsley, 10, Son, born Benton, Northumberland
Margaret Hamsley, 7, Daug, born Heworth, Durham
Joseph Liddell, 30, Relative
Abraham English, 27, Lodger

Image above is HORNSBY****

BAPTISMS;
St Jude, Knaresdale, Northumberland
ANN Hornsby 08 Apr 1829
MATTHEW Hornsby 01 Aug 1830
Parents JOHN/SARAH
Abode Slaggyford, Father Occp Lead Ore Miner

Haltwhistle;
SARAH Hornsby 18 Dec 1837 to John/Sarah (Railway Lab)

1841 Census
Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland
John HORSEBY, 30, Quarryman
Sarah, 30
Ann, 13
Matthew, 11
Elizabeth, 7
Sarah, 3****
Joseph, 1*******

GRO Birth Regs

HORNSBY, JOSEPH, Mothers mn WALTON*******
GRO Reference: 1840  D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE UNION  Volume 25  Page 340

HORNSBY, SARAH, Mothers mn WALTON***
GRO Reference: 1837  D Quarter in HALTWHISTLE UNION  Volume 25  Page 185

So something wrong here or am I going crazy ???

Looks to me the John Hornsby who married Sarah Walton 1827 has died by 1851 and is not the same John who died 1854 and was a Clerk to the Iron Founders.

This is my understanding to.
I have them in the census of 1841 living at Byker, Northumberland, England as
John Horsesby M 30-34,
Sarah Horsesby F 30-34
Ann Horsesby F 13,
Matthew Horsesby M 11
Elizabeth Horsesby F 7,
Sarah Horsesby F 3,
Joseph M 1 Northumberland

Two different families with nearly identically named children?

The Father, John I have listed as a drummer
(Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admissions and Discharges, 1715-1925)

Again, I'm not 100% certain, but this may explain the different birth town of his children.

Many thanks for this additional info, who said this was straight forward?


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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Death/Burial of Mary Hornsby
« on: Thursday 26 July 18 13:56 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: evie on Sunday 16 November 08 17:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynne

Thanks for looking. The time span I'm looking at is between 1819 and 1822 from when Mary English had Francis 1819 (unless of course she had more I haven't found) and when George married Mary Maughan 1822.

However it may well be not the case that George remarried at all and that he is the cousin of George married to Mary English.

Toooo many George Hornsbys. ::)

Evie
Hi, Evie
I'm also trying to research my Hornsby family, I have a George Hornsby (b1796 Ponteland) brother to Elizabeth, Eleanor, Mary, Nicholas and John. All but Elizabeth were born in Ponteland. I there a connection?

Regards

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Hornsby (Cumberland/Northumberland/Durham)
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 14:11 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Radcliff on Sunday 22 July 18 09:35 BST (UK)
am I looking at the correct John ,late of Blenheim St Newcastle
John Hornsby agent died 30th April 1854
  21 years in the employ of Messr I and J Burrell iron founders
John Hornsby aged 46 years  his wife is Sarah
Hi,
I believe so.

Thanks for this additional information, where did you discover it?

Sarah (c.1802), his wife, daughter of William Walton (c.1765) and Sarah Brown and sister to William Walton (c.1800).

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Hornsby (Cumberland/Northumberland/Durham)
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 09:52 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Radcliff on Sunday 22 July 18 09:35 BST (UK)
am I looking at the correct John ,late of Blenheim St Newcastle
John Hornsby agent died 30th April 1854

Many thanks for the replies

My understanding is from
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name    John Hornsby
Gender    Male
Baptism Date    07 May 1797
Baptism Place    Longbenton,Northumberland,England
Father    Thomas Hornsby
Mother    Elizabeth
Household Members
John Hornsby    
Elizabeth    
Thomas Hornsby

The Deemster route seems to be well documented, but something tells me this is not right, and from my recollection, Deemster didn't have a brother, Thomas, although I could be mistaken.

I do have John's death recorded at Apr-May-June 1854 Newcastle Upon Tyne from
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index

I'm sure something will come to light, that's what makes it interesting.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Hornsby (Cumberland/Northumberland/Durham)
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 09:39 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: chempat on Sunday 22 July 18 07:59 BST (UK)
Just for information, IGI has these 2 separate children/families:

John Hornsby
christening: 7th May 1797   Longbenton, Northumberland   
father: Thomas Hornsby   mother: Elizabeth   
 
John Hornsby
christening: 14th July 1796 Longbenton, Northumberland
father: Deemster Hornsby  mother: Isabel
Indeed my understanding is from
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name    John Hornsby
Gender    Male
Baptism Date    07 May 1797
Baptism Place    Longbenton,Northumberland,England
Father    Thomas Hornsby
Mother    Elizabeth
Household Members
John Hornsby    
Elizabeth    
Thomas Hornsby

Any help is much appreciated.
Hopefully something will come to light regarding Thomas and Elizabeth. The Deemster route seems to be well documented.

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