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Travelling People / Re: Hilliers
« on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:55 GMT (UK)  »
from the  Hampshire Baptism Index 1752-1812

14 July 1805 at Lockerley
Enos Hillier s Thomas & Mary born 31st May

Kim
Hey Kim

Thanks for this, do you know if there is any way that more information could be found?

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Travelling People / Re: Hilliers
« on: Saturday 18 January 20 17:50 GMT (UK)  »
There is a marriage for a Thomas Hillier and a Mary Ann Dark in 1804 Hillmartin, Wiltshire. This would fit in with Eneas born in 1805. Mary appears in 1851 aged 86 years living with her daughter Eleanor and son in law William Payne. When I clicked on Mary in 1851 it brought up her baptism which was on the 8 January 1796 at Great Chalfield Wiltshire. Three siblings baptised together; Thomas born 13/7/1778/ Catherine born 20/6/1780 and Mary Ann born 22/3/1785. So she would have been 11 years old. However it says she was born in Botley, Hampshire, which would fit in with the travelling around idea.
Regards
Hey, thanks loads for finding this, really appreciate it!

Do you know where I could find this?

Thanks!

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Travelling People / Hilliers
« on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:29 GMT (UK)  »
I wasn't exactly sure where to put this, so I though that I would post it here.

I am looking for help with my ancestor, Thomas Hillier. I have hit a brick wall while researching, and it is really bugging me. Thomas is believed to have been born in or around 1780, though I have no proof of this, it is just what FamilySearch says. He was married to a Mary, and the village vicar confirmed that Thomas married Mary Dark in Andover in 1808. Thomas and Mary had two children, Eneas Hillier and Eleanor Hillier.

Eneas is supposed to be born on the 31st of May, 1805, in Lockerley, Hampshire. He is supposed to have died in 1845, also in Lockerley, Hampshire. He also married Elizabeth Grist. His record states that his alternate names are; Enos Hillier and Enias Hilliard.

Eleanor is supposed to be born in 1808, witch a christening on the 17th of April, 1808. She married William Payne.

The reason I have posted here is because I suspect this family of being travellers. Some others members of this family, who do family history, also believe this. This is because:
- A family loving of horses.
- One elderly member of the family remembers hearing as a kid that the Hillier family were travellers before dealing in horses.
 - To the above, one family member commented that they knew they had gypsy blood in them.
 - The elderly family member mentioned before also stated that she had moved houses countless
 times, and another member of the family stated that they had moved houses a lot and that their
 mother had said horses were in their blood.
 - Another member of the family stated that their mother said there was gypsy blood in the family
 and they had once asked an elderly member of the family and they told them that "years ago they
 were tinkers". This same family member, at the time of posting, was about to move for the 15th
 time.
 - Another family member has also stated that their mother had moved house at least twenty times.

This is the reason that they, and I, believe that the Hilliers were originally travellers.

Any help is appreciated as this is really bugging me. Thank you!



EDIT: I have just discovered that another family member of mine has discovered some interesting information on Thomas. Apparently, his wife Mary was buried at Lockerley in 1855 and was born in 1766. Apparently Thomas died in 1824, his probate date was 20/08/1824. His eldest son is said to have married Penelope Mackerel from Bramshaw and settled there (they are buried at Bramshaw). Also, on this record, Thomas' name is spelt Hilliar.

Now, I am not sure what this could mean but hopefully it will come of some use. Thank you!

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The Common Room / Re: Rural Culture
« on: Tuesday 09 April 19 13:48 BST (UK)  »
I think it must be my genes ! I`ve so many ag labs, especially on my mother`s side, her mother`s family had lived in the same small village for over 200 years.

I could never have done it myself, out in all weathers ( well, I did do that ) at all times of the day and night - they have my admiration.

I call where I live now semi- rural, we`re near to town but surrounded by countryside. At our small local supermarket, there`s often a sight of someone obviously a famer. I saw one estate car with the boot filled with straw which looked like animals may have been bedding down in it !

To be honest, if there are many Ag Labs in your tree, then you probably do have the genes. You see, my father's side is the farming side. His mother's was not. But my his fathers (my grandfathers) was. And both his mother and father were. On the mother's side, there was a very wealthy farmer, and he had about 5 children, I think 3 sons and two daughters. He bought a very large farm for each of the 3 boys, and a house for the 3 children. And all through this line, most are listed as farmers and ag labs.

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The Common Room / Re: Rural Culture
« on: Friday 05 April 19 19:13 BST (UK)  »
   I would think "rural culture" mainly exists among the farming community. There is still quite a lot of it in evidence at sheep shows, ploughing matches etc. I live in a small village, and with a few exceptions, (such as myself!) most people are not born and bred country people. Once here, many people do stay and maybe make a different sort of rural culture.
Yeah, part of my family come from this "culture", I'm born and bred a country person, much like my father and his father.

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The Common Room / Re: Rural Culture
« on: Wednesday 03 April 19 23:24 BST (UK)  »
Why not use Google to get the answer?  Much simpler and quicker.  Just input - What is rural culture

Hello Carole,

Thanks for the response. I did that, but found nothing of what these lads were describing on google - they were talking about farming, hard/tough families and all.

Cheers :)

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The Common Room / Rural Culture
« on: Wednesday 03 April 19 23:10 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,
Just wanted to ask something quick. Could a 'rural culture' be considered a thing. I sitting on the bus today, and unfortunately my ear phones had broke, so I had no music to listen to, and I heard a couple of lads in front of me talking about a 'rural culture'. Something about farming, and family generations etc. Could anyone verify this please.
Thank you.

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Travelling People / Re: Coopers of Kingsclere
« on: Tuesday 02 April 19 15:25 BST (UK)  »
Richard Cooper, son of William & Jane Cooper baptised Woodcott 4 Mar 1716/17

The new year began on 25 March at that date so February 1716 would theoretically only be weeks before his baptism.  Very few people wrote the double date at that time - that only became prevalent later.

There are also a number of Couper and Coper baptisms in Woodcott in the first part of the 1700s.  In some instances it is obvious that there is one couple by the names of Richard & Mary, but the surname is not recorded consistently.

Richard son of Richard and Mary Cooper was baptised at Woodcott 14 Oct 1758.  Nothing in the transcription to say that he was not an infant.  There was an Eli two years later in 1760 and a Sara (where the surname is Coper) in 1756.  The first child born to these parents at Woodcott seems to have been William (would fit with Richard's father's name being William) baptised in March 1744/45 recorded as Couper, then Mary recorded as Coper in Dec 1746, followed by Elizabeth in Feb 1750.  So Richard and Mary may have stayed within the bounds of Woodcott for a few years.

Possible marriages:
Richard Cooper m Mary Ledgard at St Mary Bourne 6 Aug 1738 but this may be too early for her to be the same Mary having children in 1760 - 22 years is a long time.

William Couper married Jean Friggins 27 Dec 1708 at Woodcott.

Nell

Ah thank you. This sheds some more light on stuff.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 'Xow'
« on: Tuesday 02 April 19 15:24 BST (UK)  »
number of rooms = 4

Addresses:
Ashford Hill
Absent do.

The "do" dittos the entry above, so Absent Hill looks like the address. No idea if there was such a place.

Which census is this from?

Thank you,

1911 census.

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