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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: family in Montrose?
« on: Sunday 16 May 10 21:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ev.  Just as a matter of interest and playing about with the names you found, there is the birth of a Robert Scott Morton in 1885 at Montrose.  Helen Jane Wallace produced no hits but an Helen Wallace was born in 1884 at St Mary, Dundee. 


Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: family in Montrose?
« on: Sunday 16 May 10 18:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Donna.  A warm welcome to RootsChat.  You don't give the full names of your grandparents but the ScotlandsPeople index of marriages has a Morton marrying a Wallace at St Mary, Dundee in 1908.  If you go to and register, this will enable you to download a copy of your grandparents marriage certificate which in turn will give you the names etc., of their parents.  There is a charge of £6.00 for 30 credits and  each download needs 6 credits. Should you run into any difficulties don't hesitate to ask as I or others on RootsChat will be pleased to help.


Technical Help / 3.2
« on: Sunday 16 May 10 16:04 BST (UK)  »
I have accidentally deleted everything stored on the 'Open a document' page of my OpenOffice 3.2 programme.  Is there any possibility of recovering the information ?


Kincardineshire / Re: Duthie Family, Fordoun
« on: Monday 10 May 10 14:20 BST (UK)  »
I feel  you need have no worries that Adam's parents may not be George Duthie and Jean Cruickshank.  In the baptismal records it's not unusual to find that only the father's name is given (Fordoun Parish being a case in point).
If you enter George Duthie and Jean Cruickshank as the parents in the search index you'll find that there is no result, but if you only enter George Duthie you'll get a hit.  In other words SP has indexed the birth/baptism from the Parish register which only gives the father's name.
Thanks for the PM.  I'll get back to you when I have the photo you asked for.


Kincardineshire / Re: Where is modern day Bervie
« on: Sunday 09 May 10 12:55 BST (UK)  »
The friend who helped me with the project photographed all the stones and donated the photos to Bervie Library and I donated the MI's.  I'm friendly with the librarian and will ask if she will loan me the photos of the Millar and James stones.   I'm unsure how one attaches a photo to a RootsChat message so if you send me your email address in a PM (Private Message) I can make copies and send them on.
I expect you have seen the 1851 Census of Bervie but just in case:-

Church Street, Bervie
MILLAR, Mary                 Head       U     37   Invalid formerly Servant    born Bervie
MILLAR, Alexander          Brother   U     32   Mason                              born Bervie
GIBSEN, Elesabeth          Niece      U     15   House Servant                  born Bervie

MILLAR, Robert               Head       M     34  Farmer 40 acres, 1 Lab.      born Bervie
MILLAR, Clementina         Wife        M     28                                          born Bervie
MILLAR, Clementina         Dau.                 6                                          born Bervie
MILLAR, Alexander           Son                  4                                          born Bervie
MILLAR, William               Son                  2                                          born Bervie
WILE, Ann           Sister-in-Law       U      21  House Servant                  born Bervie
GOWAN, Ellen       Servant             U      15  House servant                  born Bervie
SMITH, John         Servant             U       26 Farm Servant                   born Garvock

Although there is no MI for him, an Alexander Millar was buried at Bervie Kirkyard in 1907 aged 89.  It looks as though this is the son born to George & Elizabeth in 1819.


Kincardineshire / Re: Where is modern day Bervie
« on: Friday 07 May 10 21:47 BST (UK)  »
According to the IGI, George Falconer Millar and Elizabeth Wyllie had 5 children, Elizabeth b. 14 Nov 1811 m. 1 Sep 1832 John Gibson
Robert b. 8 Sep 1815 m. 5 Nov 1841 Clementina Will
Alexander b. 28 May 1817
George Falconer b. 5 Aug 1819
Ann b. 8 Aug 1821

Robert & Clementina had 4 children,
Robert b. 31 Oct 1842 d. 24 Jul 1847
Clementina b. 24 Sep 1844 d. 7 Apr 1863
Alexander b. 30 Aug 1846 d. Glasgow 13 Sep 1888
Mary b. 28 Apr 1850 d. 16 Jul 1850

Kincardineshire / Re: Where is modern day Bervie
« on: Friday 07 May 10 20:45 BST (UK)  »
In order to give you a better idea of the burials at the Old Kirkyard at Bervie I'll quote from the booklet which I produced:-

"Index of Interments - Old Churchyard, Kirkburn, Inverbervie
This index has been compiled from the Registers of Interments, the first covering the period 9 Jan 1864 to 2 Sep 1892.  It is written on a jotter and appears to have been the work of the gravedigger.  A blank exists between 1892 and 1898.  When the new cemetery at Gourdon was opened in 1899 only those who already held ground at the Old Churchyard were permitted to be interred there.  This second register extends from 18 May 1899 to 18 Oct 1934 when the last interment took place.
Names inscribed on the gravestones have not been included as these have been transcribed and indexed in a seperate book, along with a plan of the Churchyard."

There is no marker for George Falconer Millar or his wife Elizabeth Wyllie but there is one for their son Robert born 8 Sep 1815 and his wife Clementina Will who were  married on 5 Nov 1841:-

"1848  Erected by Robert Millar, mason in Bervie in memory of his son Robert d. 24 Jul 1847 in his 5th year; Mary d. 16 Jul 1850 in her 1st year; Clementina d. 7 Apr 1863 aged 18; Alexander d. Glasgow 13 Sep 1888 aged 42; said Robert Millar d. 20 Jan 1893 aged 77; his wife Clementina Will d. 8 Jan 1894 aged 71."

Another stone:  "Erected by Alexander James, mason, Bervie in memory of his wife Clementina Millar who died 7 Apr 1863 aged 18."

Alexander James went on to marry my great-aunt Mary Ann Burness in 1864 and I believe they emigrated to South Africa.  I hope this is of some help.


Kincardineshire / Re: Where is modern day Bervie
« on: Thursday 06 May 10 14:48 BST (UK)  »
Inverbervie is the town (locally called Bervie) while Bervie is the name of the Parish which includes the fishing village of Gourdon 1 mile south.  Are you looking for a burial at the cemetery near Gourdon (opened in 1899) or at the Old Churchyard in Kirkburn, Inverbervie ?  A friend and I surveyed the latter several years ago and recorded all the memorial inscriptions.  Please let me know if this could be of help.


I realise that there are quite a few free pedigree charts available on the web but I have come across one which allows you to type in the names, dates and places of birth, marriage and death.  The size of the lettering  is pre-determined and the end result is very neat; much more so if, like myself, your handwriting is beginning to deteriorate.
The website is:   Scroll down to 6 Generation Pedigree Chart and click the thumbnail image on the left.


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