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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Thursday 01 August 24 20:51 BST (UK) »
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Thursday 01 August 24 20:51 BST (UK) »
Just spotted something, Eileen is listed as being born in Northern Island, not Tynemouth
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Thursday 01 August 24 20:47 BST (UK) »
Now you have James age, place of birth and occupation, he is easily found in 1921.
Not so easy it seems, I've inputted his data in to FindMyPast and got no results, I've tried the same with Cecilia/Cecila, again no results, I've tried the same with Eileen and bingo, got the family but no James.
Cecilia is listed as head and married and the 3 girls are there, the first child, Cecilia born in 1911 is not there, presumably died, so, where is James??
Not so easy it seems, I've inputted his data in to FindMyPast and got no results, I've tried the same with Cecilia/Cecila, again no results, I've tried the same with Eileen and bingo, got the family but no James.
Cecilia is listed as head and married and the 3 girls are there, the first child, Cecilia born in 1911 is not there, presumably died, so, where is James??
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Wednesday 31 July 24 19:54 BST (UK) »
Lizzie,
#Reply 39, Ancestry automatically inserted a James Ward from Ireland and an Eileen Margaret Ward but with no corroborating evidence, it looked wrong due the the fact she was the only child of 12 born there and it gave a death date for James as 1942 when Eileen's marriage certificate in 1932 shows him as deceased, so I dismissed it straight away.
#Reply 44, it seems the death date in 1930 for James is probably right, it certainly fits with Eileen's marriage certificate.
# Reply 39 & Rosie #Reply 40, thanks for the advice, i'll do just that.
# Reply 42, I'm happy with EVERYTHING you have unearthed here
# Reply 44, I'll search for service records of James and order up his death certificate from GRO.
# Reply 45, WOW JONW..............Right of the blue!!!
I spoke to an aunt when I read this and she had never heard this story, its a big shock
Weirdly, there's a family story that George, who was 27 at the outbreak of WW2, was a fireman at Shell Chemicals in Carrington during the conflict and was therefore in a reserved occupation, why was he still driving buses in 1940??
# Reply 46, That'll be for his mother Ada Mary Brown who was born 31st March 1884.
So, a lot to work on and I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this, as you all probably know without this kind of help, some of us would really struggle
#Reply 39, Ancestry automatically inserted a James Ward from Ireland and an Eileen Margaret Ward but with no corroborating evidence, it looked wrong due the the fact she was the only child of 12 born there and it gave a death date for James as 1942 when Eileen's marriage certificate in 1932 shows him as deceased, so I dismissed it straight away.
#Reply 44, it seems the death date in 1930 for James is probably right, it certainly fits with Eileen's marriage certificate.
# Reply 39 & Rosie #Reply 40, thanks for the advice, i'll do just that.
# Reply 42, I'm happy with EVERYTHING you have unearthed here
# Reply 44, I'll search for service records of James and order up his death certificate from GRO.
# Reply 45, WOW JONW..............Right of the blue!!!
I spoke to an aunt when I read this and she had never heard this story, its a big shock
Weirdly, there's a family story that George, who was 27 at the outbreak of WW2, was a fireman at Shell Chemicals in Carrington during the conflict and was therefore in a reserved occupation, why was he still driving buses in 1940??
# Reply 46, That'll be for his mother Ada Mary Brown who was born 31st March 1884.
So, a lot to work on and I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this, as you all probably know without this kind of help, some of us would really struggle
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Wednesday 31 July 24 10:44 BST (UK) »
Working back from my grandmothers marriage certificate which I physically have, Eileen Margaret Wardmarried George Banham Brown 10th December 1932, father listed as James Ward, deceased.
Research yesterday evening puts the potential mother as Rogan so something to work on, however, Ancestry shows the potential James Ward father as dying in 1942 AND Eillen as a child born in Ireland!!.....It aint easy this genealogy lark is it
Research yesterday evening puts the potential mother as Rogan so something to work on, however, Ancestry shows the potential James Ward father as dying in 1942 AND Eillen as a child born in Ireland!!.....It aint easy this genealogy lark is it
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Tuesday 30 July 24 19:05 BST (UK) »
Dismissing the Gateshead connection, It still poses the question that the 1939 Register shows them at 25 Banff Road and 7 Fishermore Road.
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Tuesday 30 July 24 18:19 BST (UK) »
I cant believe I didn't spot this, my mothers middle name is.................CECILIA!!!!!
I've been blindsided and it just goes to show.....................STICK TO THE VIDENCE AND RECORDS!!!!!!
I've been blindsided and it just goes to show.....................STICK TO THE VIDENCE AND RECORDS!!!!!!
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Tuesday 30 July 24 18:04 BST (UK) »
It would appear so
So the American connection is no more, it looks like that side of the family is Irish.
So the American connection is no more, it looks like that side of the family is Irish.
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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Tuesday 30 July 24 17:57 BST (UK) »
REVELATION!!!!!!..................I have her marriage certificate, yes, and her fathers name is listed as James Ward (Deceased) Blimey I've been barking up the wrong tree, I'm gonna have to start again with this, Kenneth has been at the forefront of my enquiries and it seems I've been looking in the wrong place all the time!!!!!
I've been barking up the wrong tree, I'm gonna have to start again with this, Kenneth has been at the forefront of my enquiries and it seems I've been looking in the wrong place all the time!!!!!