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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Tuesday 30 July 24 17:04 BST (UK)  »
Yes LizzieL, I have Eileen's birth certificate Showing Kenneth and Margaret Ward.
I think your right about the 2 similar families   ::)

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Tuesday 30 July 24 10:35 BST (UK)  »
I think its clear not everyone followed these instructions fhtess1165, given i can place some relatives in 3 places and other relatives not listed at all, even allowing for families with people in them with the same name.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Sunday 28 July 24 18:31 BST (UK)  »
I think you right LizzieL, there are instances in the family tree's on Ancestry where the Rogan name crops up but for obvious reasons I dismissed them.
I am happy that Kenneth Alderson Ward and Margaret Eleanor Baker (Ward) are my correct descendants, I'll have to do some double checking with the children to eliminate the James and Cecilia tribe.
Thanks to everyone for your help, much appreciated.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Sunday 28 July 24 13:11 BST (UK)  »
The perils of having a common surname eh mckha489, my surname is Davis, formerly Davies, family from Hereford near the Welsh border and that's caused me no end of problems, Thomas and James a common family name through out but finding a 4x great grandfather called Uvedale was a beacon of light in a cloudy sky  ;D

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Sunday 28 July 24 13:07 BST (UK)  »
I suppose in the grand scheme of things none of it really matters and just go on the things I know, or suspect I know, that the Brown family consisting of George, Eileen, William, Patricia and my mother Margaret DID live in Manchester and that Eileen's mother Margaret DID live in Gateshead, everything else is just jam on the butty eh  ::)

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Sunday 28 July 24 13:04 BST (UK)  »
Update: 2 other daughters also, Barbara Ward, DOB 1918 so she would have been 21 in 1939, no sign of her in Gateshead so more work needed to see where she was, the bit I know already is she emigrated to New Zealand in 1949, is listed as single and died over there.
The other daughter, Dorothy ward DOB 1916 is listed as died in Gateshead in 1999 so where was she in 1939 aged 23, more work required on that one too.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Sunday 28 July 24 12:49 BST (UK)  »
69 Pottersway Gateshead is the correct address for my great grandmother, the DOB of the 3 girls "living" there are correct.
Further research yesterday has found that Kathleen never married and Violet married an Edward Hills in 1941 although the surname WARD is crossed out and replaced with HILLS.
I'm assuming that Violet moved to Gateshead to live with Edward and once Margaret's hubby buggered off, her and Kathleen went to live with her.
However, It still makes me wonder why my grandmother Eileen is listed as she married my grandfather George in 1932 and moved to Manchester.
25 Banff Road is the correct Brown family, namely Eileen, George, and Margaret (my mother), I don't know who Cecelia Whitehead (Ward) is so some research needed there, I was hoping she may have been a sister of Kenneth Ward, Margaret's absent husband but thats not the case, and why is Kathleen on here as well as on the Gateshead one?
The 3rd record is for 7 Fishermore Road Urmston Manchester, listing George, Eileen and Patricia a daughter, no sign of my mother or a brother listed, incidentaly, Eileens DOB is wrong too, listed as 20/07/11914 when it is actually 30/12/1913.
So, the mystery continues  ::) .......... Dont you just love genealogy  ;D

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Saturday 27 July 24 20:10 BST (UK)  »
Oh yeah, the DOB on both records in Manchester are wrong!

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Can It Get Any Weirder
« on: Saturday 27 July 24 20:09 BST (UK)  »
The one in Gateshead has the right DOB but the wrong details, she is listed as single and working as a short hand typist along with 2 other sisters where in fact she was married and living in Manchester with her husband and 3 children, one of which is my mother.
Her mother is listed as head of the household but I'm not sure this is true, she moved from Barrow to Gateshead after her husband buggered off to pastures new to live with her married daughter so I'm assuming the husband is head of the household but not listed.
Now there is something else amiss in Gateshead, the 3 daughters are all listed as single and as short hand typists, one of the daughters is also married so something fishy is going on here.
The one I think it is in Manchester is the right address, my grandad is listed and an aunt, my mother and her brother are not listed, mum would be 3 and her brother 8. The address listed is the one I have visited many times in the 50s and 60s.
The other address is 10 miles the other side of town and that record also has both grandparents on it and my mother, but again, not her brother and sister.
I'm thinking Jebber may have a point about a bit of funny business going on here.

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