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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Monday 08 March 21 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, the tree is mine. I do feel sorry for Robert H. No wonder his last letter was kept, presumably by his sister, my gt-grandmother.

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Sunday 07 March 21 17:41 GMT (UK)  »
Astonishing to see what you have found!☺ Thank you so much.

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Sunday 07 March 21 12:49 GMT (UK)  »
I'm glad he seems not to have been a murderer! The 5'6" sounds a more likely height. From tweeds to skinny dipping implies that he was not quite acclimatised....

Fascinating finds, anyway. I'm very grateful.
I did notice reference to 'Uncle Jardine' in his letter. An old photo came up with that unfamiliar name, linked to Liverpool and New Brunswick (timber dealer/ship owner). Will check for Wardleys.

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Sunday 07 March 21 12:09 GMT (UK)  »
Very interesting articles, well done and thank you to both! A complete surprise and a sad end, if that is the case .4'6" is very short; I did hear that Turnbulls (he was 50%) were tall!
He said he was working at an outfitter's and was staying at Rose of Melbourne hotel in Young St,when he wrote to his sister in August 1864. The landlady's name could be Falkington or similar and the area of Melbourne Telford, but it's too hard to decipher and the attachments keep being rejected..

No, I don't have any more information about Mrs W. It's a Turnbull relative with a (still) locked tree who has tried to investigate.


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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Saturday 06 March 21 13:21 GMT (UK)  »
I think it was a common or paupers' grave. His family (siblings/uncle) can't have known or surely someone would have paid for a grave. Grandmother, 3 sisters and uncle all lived to 'good' ages.

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Saturday 06 March 21 11:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hope attachment comes through.

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1880s
« on: Saturday 06 March 21 11:55 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you.
Have amended Mrs W to '1880s'.

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Saturday 06 March 21 11:51 GMT (UK)  »
The letter was 1887: I tried to attach it but 'too big'

Robert Hope: father James Hope   (b Gretna 1801-d.Knaresborough 1846)
                    mother Ann Turnbull (b. Knaresborough 1806, d.1844)
Robert was born in Annan, 1837,orphaned by 1846,brought up in Knaresborough.
He was in Liverpool in 1861, living with siblings Elizabeth Turnbull (Hope) Muir + Emma Hope but seems to have emigrated before his sister Mary Jane's 1864 marriage, also in Liverpool.
Joseph Muir was a draper, as was Robert. Robert's grandparents William Turnbull  and Mary Andrews (Lund) were in the flax/linen trade. Mary lived until c1863.

I wonder why Uncle Robert Turnbull thought it 'inadvisable' for Mrs Wardley to return to England?
Still locked out of the Tree!!!

Thanks,
Elizabeth

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Australia / Re: Australia/Van Diemen's Land: Mrs Wardley 1870s
« on: Saturday 06 March 21 09:30 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for looking! I stated the wrong decade for the Golden Wedding. :o  A person whose Turnbull tree has resisted 'unlocking' said she saw the pupil entry in the 1851 census and one from Van D's Land in the Hackness (church) visitors' book (parent of pupil?) but had had no success following up.

Ancestry bombarded me with 'marriage' hints for Robert Hope, all wrong, but I did wonder who his uncle Robert T would want to send 10 to. I'm going to look for links with Robert Hope's sister, Eliz. Turnbull (Hope) Muir, since he had lived with her in Liverpool in 1861.

I wonder if any of Robert Turnbull's  250 donated 'Pilgrim's progress' books are still extant in Scalby?!

Thank you again.

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