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London and Middlesex / Re: Phoebe Mardell died 1844
« on: Thursday 17 September 20 05:22 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: PaulineJ on Wednesday 16 September 20 13:46 BST (UK)
Marriage might be pre registration.
Theres a 10 y old with em in 1851
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1851&indiv=try&h=598785

Oh I see,
Another "let's tell half the story and dont refer to anything that's been discussed before" thread.


I'm sorry, Pauline.  I didn't realise that anyone would read my message that way and I certainly didn't mean to irritate you.  I though it should be a separate message because it is a different family name.

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London and Middlesex / John Saunders Ford 1846
« on: Wednesday 16 September 20 12:38 BST (UK)  »
Good afternoon,

I have hunted high and low but I cannot find a baptism for John Saunders Ford (1846-1910).

He was born on the 27th of May 1846 at No. 1 Easton Street Poplar. 
His parents were Saunders and Ruth Ann (or Ann or Ann Ruth or Ruth) Ford
He had siblings: Jemima Selina (or Selina Jemima or Celina) and Sarah Ann were his sister, and Henry Thomas was his brother.

It is possible that they were not baptised at all, or that they were baptised in one batch as sometimes happened.  It is also possible that they were Jewish but things are so clouded and so often the wrong information was given in censuses and other official documents that it is tricky!

I have looked but I just cannot find anything and so I thought I would see if anyone can locate them.

With kind regards,

Kir

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London and Middlesex / Re: Phoebe Mardell died 1844
« on: Tuesday 08 September 20 22:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for taking a look for me, Carole. 

Yes the family were well known for chopping and changing their names.  They had a distrust of authority and often gave out all sorts of incorrect information about themselves!

I have a feeling that Phoebe was not registered although Julia was and I do have her birth certificate.

Actually the tradition is that Phoebe's stepfather (my so many great grandfather Saunders Ford) was Jewish and I wonder if she was possible buried  in a Jewish cemetery if that was allowed (and if the tradition is true).  At one time Saunders said that he was born in Ireland but then used to say that he was born 'on the seas' however my father said he was told that he was born in Russia...  it's all very confusing.

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London and Middlesex / Phoebe Mardell died 1844
« on: Tuesday 08 September 20 12:21 BST (UK)  »
Good evening,

I am searching for a burial record of Phoebe Mardell who died in 1844 aged five years. 
Phoebe died in the district of Whitechapel and I do not yet have her death certificate.  She may have been buried under the name of Phoebe Ford.

The facts:
Phoebe was born in c.1838 in Hertford.
Mother: Ruth Vant
Father: David Mardell
I don't think that Ruth and David were married but I might be wrong.  Between 1841 and 1844 Ruth took Phoebe and her other daughter and ran away(?) to London where she lived with a chap named Saunders Ford who accepted her two daughters and brought them up as his own.  Saunders and Ruth would have children of their own, including my great-great-grandfather.

I don't have any other information on Phoebe at this stage so any extra information would be welcome.

With kind regards,

Kir

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« on: Monday 24 August 20 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Oh dear!!  Well that explains it.  I feel so sorry for Martha.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« on: Monday 24 August 20 12:07 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, John.

That's the problem when you have someone with a relatively common name who likes to change it every now and then...

I see that the one born in London says he is single but he may have split up from Martha of course.  I wonder if he has put his signature on the census or someone else filled it out because I have a couple of samples of his signature.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« on: Monday 24 August 20 11:57 BST (UK)  »
Well that jolly interesting.  Now if we could get a copy of his signature we would know because I have two examples.

I sure do hope this proves to be him because he sounds as if he led an interesting life. 

I've been looking for some time and I know that that generation of the family were seafaring.

Thanks chempat

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« on: Monday 24 August 20 09:58 BST (UK)  »
Well that is very interesting and intriguing, Jonw65

It certainly seems correct, doesn't it.  There are lots of indicators. 

I've tried to find a birth or a death for Henry 'Ross' but no luck yet.

Cheers

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« on: Sunday 23 August 20 22:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for your help.  It's a tricky one.

Yes they were married in 1863.  You go to press one button on the computer but your finger presses another one instead!  ;D

I don't believe that the Morgans are related to Martha and she isn't living with them in the 1911 census.  I haven't thought about obtaining Martha's will.  I just presumed that she left her money to them.  As an aside, I haven't been able to find a death registration for Martha either!

I should point out that I looked also to see if they were perhaps living in Scotland but I couldn't find anything there either.

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