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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Patrick Doyle lost at sea
« on: Monday 25 April 22 11:27 BST (UK)  »
No this is definitely "my" Patrick Doyle. I was curious as to whether there would be an official death certificate as there would be for a normal death on land or was there just the records I mentioned above.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« on: Monday 25 April 22 11:23 BST (UK)  »
Yes I got a reply from the National Archives. I will look up the details and post them asap.
Thank you

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Patrick Doyle lost at sea
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 15:39 BST (UK)  »
Is that record in lieu of a normal death certificate?

Family History Beginners Board / Patrick Doyle lost at sea
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 10:34 BST (UK)  »
Following up on a post last year, I have been able to establish that Patrick my great great grandfather, Patrick Doyle, died on October 25/26 1859 when his ship, the Royal Charter, sank in a storm near Moelfre off the coast of Anglesey. I got this information from the ship's return document - Account of Foreign Going Ship to be delivered to the Shipping Master at [Liverpool].  He was about 38 years old and married to Bridget. They lived in Upper Wolfe street (or Woolf Street) at the time.
I have searched GRO for a death record, using both Anglesey and Liverpool District of Death criteria. I have also looked at newspaper archives but with no success. Any thoughts on where else I could look for a certificate would be greatly appreciated. I'm presuming there was a certificate somewhere as the 1861 census says that Bridget was then a widow.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Tracing a ship's voyages
« on: Tuesday 21 December 21 18:33 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Heywood that is so kind of you, thank you. We went to Moelfre a few weeks ago and found a memorial on the headland and lots of memorial stones and graves in St Gallgo church graveyard. Where is the memorial you found? We are hoping to go back when the weather picks up. Thank you again  for your thoughtful gesture.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: North Wales/Wrexham marriage records
« on: Sunday 28 November 21 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
I have looked at a random selection of pages from 1 to 175 of this particular parish marriage records (covering 1832-37) and all appear to read "with consent of Friends". I managed to locate a similar set for Ruabon nearby and the consent of ... is left blank right throughout. As someone indicated, perhaps it was just how the clergyman decided to fill in the details.

Family History Beginners Board / North Wales/Wrexham marriage records
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 12:12 GMT (UK)  »
Two of my ancestors , George Lloyd and Mary Rogers, were married in Wrexham on December 31st 1833. 

Theirs and the adjacent records I have looked at say "married .... with consent of Friends". Does anyone know anything about this form of consent? Was it unique to Wales?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Marriage Records
« on: Tuesday 09 November 21 10:07 GMT (UK)  »
I forgot to ask, why would the location be recorded next to the witnesses names and not those of the people being married?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Marriage Records
« on: Tuesday 09 November 21 10:02 GMT (UK)  »
Digging further, I believe my relatives lived in or near Ballinakill. A number of locations in adjacent marriage records match current place names - Chapel Lane is now, I think, Chapel Street, Clonking is nearby, as is Ironmills (Kilrush) and, perhaps most significantly, is a reference to the Graveyard location which says in part "..... Kilkenny Road, (also known as Graveyard Street)" -

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