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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 01:33 BST (UK)  »
Great thank you. Is it possible that they never registered her birth? I'm not too hot on the rules back then. This is my husbands tree im researching - my side is very much irish and alot of them didn't register their children so i usually find the baptism records instead but thought in england it would incur a fine - not sure the reasons behind not registering.

Have had a look on GRO and cannot find a sullivan born to a MMN of Walsh that could match either of the daughters

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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 01:24 BST (UK)  »
There is a baptism on FindMyPast. Catholic at Our Lady of La Salette & St Joseph, Bermondsey

Brigida
Born 16/Jan 1883 bap 11 Feb
Parents Jacobi(James) and Brigida (Bridget) Olim (nee) WALSH

Sponsors Jacobus Walsh & Maria Anna Cummins

With the same birth date i was given and the fact it's in bermondsey surely that has to be her? Does it have a surname?

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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 01:16 BST (UK)  »
Well thinking a bit wider,
Consider the father of the girls was not James SULLIVAN, but she and children assumed his name by census time

DENNY, BRIDGET  mms     CALLAGHAN 
GRO Reference: 1883  D Quarter 
 SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 216

Sue

Definitely something I will consider that I didn't think of! Last time I couldn't find a marriage certificate it was that the woman was previously married and her married name was on the marriage cert rather than her maiden so not sure why this didn't occur to me!

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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 01:13 BST (UK)  »
I think CA….. could be Carmody.   (Hannah Stacher Carmody m James Sullivan 1884) so that’s one down.

I didn't think to go through it that way! Great idea! Thank you

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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 01:02 BST (UK)  »
I've even searched marriages in Ireland and to no avail! With such common names and many James Sullivan's marrying Bridget's at about the right time it's made it difficult -

Census details are 1891:
Name   Bridget Sullivan
Gender   Female
Age   31
Relationship   Wife
Birth Year   1860
Spouse   James Sullivan
Child   Bridget Sullivan; Magaret Sullivan
Birth Place   Ireland
Civil parish   Bermondsey
Residence Place   Bermondsey, London, England
Registration district   St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district   Leather Market

James Sullivan   31
Bridget Sullivan   31
Bridget Sullivan   8
Magaret Sullivan 6

1901
Name   Bridget Sullivan
Age   46
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1855
Relation to Head   Head
Gender   Female
Birth Place   Ireland
Civil parish   Southwark St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish   St Paul Bermondsey
Town   London
County/Island   London
Country   England
Registration district   Southwark
Sub-registration district   Kent Road

Bridget Sullivan   46
Bridget Sullivan   19
Margaret Sullivan 16

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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 00:59 BST (UK)  »
I was looking at that one (maiden name CA……) but there isn’t a Bridget 1883 with a MMN starting CA….

 ???

I know!! I was looking for the same thing! Very confusing! I'm at such a dead end

I do know that Bridget Mary is listed as Mary Bridget at times throughout her life

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London and Middlesex / Re: JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 00:48 BST (UK)  »
This is one possible birth for Margaret.
 
SULLIVAN, MARGARET    mother's maiden surname    SULLIVAN 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in
SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 230

Sue

Hi Sue, thanks for the reply! I'm pretty sure she was born 1885 so found this but for some reason doesn't give the whole surname -

SULLIVAN, MARGARET        CA...     
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 290

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London and Middlesex / JAMES AND BRIDGET SULLIVAN look up please - stuck!
« on: Friday 05 April 24 00:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Would love you help in finding out more information about James and Bridget Sullivan - info i have is:

James Sullivan - born Tooley Street, Bermondsey in 1860 - died in St Olave, Bermondsey 1897
Bridget (unknown maiden name) - born in Ireland in 1860

They had two children that I know of - Bridget Mary in 18th Jan 1883 and Margaret in 1885 both born in Bermondsey - i think St Olave

I cannot find a marriage record for James and Bridget and so I don't know her maiden name and have only census records to go by which puts her year of birth as 1860 and that she was born in Ireland but doesn't even say which town.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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I found her on the 1911 census with her second husband Hughie Wallis and her daughter Lillie Wallis - on the census is also a George Wallis who is 5 years old so that will be George James Mead - theyve given him his stepdads surname although throughout his life his went by Mead.

That solves the other part of the mystery.

Katie x

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