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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 15:50 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Monday 13 July 20 15:13 BST (UK)
He has signed it and the hand writing is the same as the rest of the form.   :-\. Did he sign his marriage certificate

He didn't, they marked it with than X.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 13:56 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Monday 13 July 20 13:34 BST (UK)
Just adding 1911 from familysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4T-JDQ
Henry Butland   Married   43   Marlow, Buckinghamshire
Susie Butland   Married   37   Healing, Middlesex
Rodney Butland   Single   19   Harrow Middlesex
Henry Butland   Single   17   Tottenham London
John Butland   Son      9   Harrow, Middlesex
Sidney Butland   Son      7   Wildesden, Middlesex
Ada Butland   Daughter   5   Brettenham Rd Edmonton
Sara Butland   Daughter   3   Brettenham Rd Edmonton
Polly Butland   Daughter   0   Brettenham Rd Edmonton
Sinana Butland   Married   22   Wandsworth, London
Marie Butland   Married   20   Tottenham, Middlesex

Thats them, thats the census I have! I think someone wrote it for them.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 13:06 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Mckha489 on Monday 13 July 20 13:00 BST (UK)
I am finding the newspapers riveting.

Henry had aliases  :(


Added, but this one
31 December 1870 - Reading Mercury - Reading, Berkshire, England about the same event says he was 24 so born 1846, so a different Henry?

looks like a different henry. He would be to old annoyingly.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 12:58 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 13 July 20 12:18 BST (UK)
Reply 6.  If Louisa was born 1875 - she would have been 13yrs old to have had a child in 1888

Cinderella was on a 1939 census with a birthday of 4th June 1888.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 12:34 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Mckha489 on Monday 13 July 20 11:46 BST (UK)
Is this death connected?
It stays he is age 1 but I see no matching birth

Deaths Dec 1897   (>99%)
Buckland    Shipton    1    Highworth    5a   14

Not sure to be honest...

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 12:28 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Monday 13 July 20 12:26 BST (UK)
Are childrens births registered as Smith  :-\

SMITH, POLLY       - 
GRO Reference: 1910  Dec Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 602

yes I think so.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 12:28 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 13 July 20 12:18 BST (UK)
Reply 6.  If Louisa was born 1875 - she would have been 13yrs old to have had a child in 1888

Its more likely cinderella was born 1890 as on the 1911 census Louisa was 37 and Cinderella was 22.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 11:53 BST (UK)  »
ahh damn! sorry

Louisa born 1875 and first child born 1888 more likely 1890.

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Travelling People / Does anyone know of this family? Henry Buckland and Shipton Buckland
« on: Monday 13 July 20 09:50 BST (UK)  »
I have a Henry Buckland born est 1866 with no evidence of birth or death. He married a Louisa Smith in 1915. She was born est 1875, again, no evidence of birth but I do have a death register for her.

These two are featured on a 1911 Census in Edmonton England under the name Henry Butland and Lusie Butland. I have confirmed that the people on census are definitely mine.

I also have their marriage cert, married 1915. Father to Henry is a Shipton Buckland and father to Louisa is a Emmanual Smith. Neither one I can confirm identities too and both fathers are decreased by the time of the marriage. Witnesses are W Young and Sarah Young. Both Henry and his father Shipton are horse dealers.

These people married very late, age 49 and 40 but their first child was born 1888/1890 - Cinderella/Sinder Buckland.

Any ideas?



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