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The Common Room / Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« on: Friday 26 November 21 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks everyone,
Yes in the 1851 Census Tereza Firth is shown as the Grandaughter of George and Rachel, Betty is listed as being a housekeeper in the household of her brother George who is widowed and has 6 children.

The single/double slash is something I didn't know and is very helpful. It does suggest that the 3 generations of the Firth Family are all together and were in the same place. As it stands, Betty is listed with her siblings and Hannah's son Joshua (aged 1), while the grandchildren are listed as being with their grandparents.

United States of America / Re: Port of Detroit - Immigration
« on: Friday 26 November 21 15:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks  oldohiohome,

that is a thought, I had never considered that they could just travel over the border by car and not fill in paperwork. I probably didn't consider this because the husband and wife lived at 2 addresses, but it may have been 2 far for the husband to commute.

United States of America / Re: Port of Detroit - Immigration
« on: Friday 26 November 21 14:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all the information Sandra, that is really helpful

United States of America / Port of Detroit - Immigration
« on: Wednesday 24 November 21 15:02 GMT (UK)  »
I have one of my ancestors Agnes Saville who moved to Canada with her husband John Richard Burrill and children in 1924. They went to live in Windsor, Ontario,John Burrill however lived and worked as a mailman in Detroit (Windsor is on the opposite river bank from Detroit).  I have a found a few USA immigration documents for the various members of the family detailing when they have travelled over to Detroit to visit the husband/father. Over time the children eventually moved to the US and were granted naturalization. Agnes though did not move to the states to be with her husband until 1941/2. This did not occur until after the marriage of her daughter Olive, who was the only member of the family not to move. Reading some of the immigration documents it looks as if Olive was denied entry to the States due to being medically unfit (the only times allowed were for medical treatment). So it looks as if Agnes was looking after her daughter until she was married.

My question though is that it looks as if husband and wife were apart for 16 years and they are only a few documents detailing visits.  I wonder though if immigration documents were only issued at the Port of Detroit for ferry travel, and if travel by road, no documents were recorded or available.  Or maybe there was a neutral area between he Us and Canada where the families could meet?

I am just looking for details to help flesh out their stories.

The Common Room / Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« on: Sunday 14 November 21 15:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone. I am limited at what I can do at the moment as I am in hospital with covid so can't do specific research but just ask general questions to help me when I am eventually out.

The Common Room / Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« on: Sunday 14 November 21 14:38 GMT (UK)  »
I have my great great grandmother  Theresa Firth and on her baptism record is her mother Betty, no father. In 1841 Census there is a Theresa Firth listed  with a George Firth. However when image is looked at it shows that George is GRandfathed and head of several children. But the very next entry in census has Betty as head with a variety of siblings and other children. Was it common that a whole family may have gone in together but then the enumerators registered them as 2 heads, and make it look as if 2 households?

Bruce Saville

Fermanagh / Re: Bussell/Mitchell
« on: Wednesday 20 October 21 17:48 BST (UK)  »
I have just registered with Rootschat and came across this post. Not sure if it is ok but I thought I would add to this post for anone interested, details on my GGGGrandmother Jane Bushel/Bussell who came from Aghavea. She married George Kells at Aghavea Parish Church on 15/8/1835. They had 5 children born in Ireland George, John, May Ann, Eliza Jane and Richard - of which I can only find baptism records for John and Eliza Jane (at Aghavea). They moved to Wakefield, Yorkshire around 1847 as their daughter Martha is nor there. In 1854 their last son William was born.
In 1851 Census lists her age is 33, George is 43. Also there is Jane Bushel's sister Mary 23.

As I have no records before their marriage I can't say if Jane is any connections to Bussel's discussed here, but just posting in case it is of interest.

Dorset / Re: Fordington -- Esther CREECH --- Anchor Inn
« on: Monday 18 October 21 17:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I have just come across this post and others posted on William Hill and Esther Creech. They are my GGGGGrandparents, with their grandaughter Fanny Hill being my great grandmother (I am descended from Francis Henry Hodgkinson).  My research has found that William Hill was a soldier stationed at Fordington Barracks and that is how he would have met Esther Creech. He was stationed in Cork and received an honourable discharge in Oct 1851 after being kicked by his horse and suffering  a compound fracture of the leg. This was why he was in receipt of a pension, it was from Chelsea Hospital.

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