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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Saturday 13 November 21 00:43 GMT (UK)  »
I think what you have found seems to be my Elizabeth, but here is the other one I found anyway from an 1871 census.

Name: Elizabeth A Turner
Age: 16
Est. Birth year: 1855
Relation to head: Daughter
Where born: Tormsham Torquay, Devon England
Civil Parish: Torquay
Town: Torquay
Country: Devon, England
Registration district: Newton Abbott
ED, Institution or vessel: 5a
Household schedule number: 151
Piece: 2086
Folio:18
Page: 28

Anne Turner 41, wife
John Turner 40, head
Elizabeth A Turner 16, Daughter
George Turner 11, Son
Robert S Turner 8, Son
Caroline S Turner 6, Daughter
John Turner 3, Son



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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Friday 12 November 21 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all! Lots for me to have a look at.

I have a question, there is another family in a similar area and timeframe that have a John Turner with a daughter Elizabeth Anne Turner.

 How do you work out without knowing her mother's name, which one is the right one?

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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Friday 12 November 21 06:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hmmm I'll go have a look at it now, thank you

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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Friday 12 November 21 03:06 GMT (UK)  »
Oh wow, there you go!

There was a Frederick/Frank Townsend that kept popping up in gaol records when I was researching Frank's Stuarts criminal activity, I might have to go back now and could possibly find the missing gaps I have, including how he was arrested in New Zealand but yet I couldn't work out how he had gotten there to start with haha

I've also found that birth certificate as well, thank you!!

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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Friday 12 November 21 01:32 GMT (UK)  »
So Frank would have been born in England then, not NSW, even though on all his gaol records it says native of NSW? I guess it was probably very easy back then to just say you were born wherever, right?

I couldn't seem to find the birth record of 'Frederick' (frank) Townsend in England, I found a few others but none with an Elizabeth/Annie Turner as mother.


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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Thursday 11 November 21 09:14 GMT (UK)  »
18908/1932

Name: Elizabeth Ann Stuart
D.O.D: 26 Sep 1932
Place: 83 Berry St, Municipality of North Sydney
Occupation: old age pensioner
Sex: Female
Age: 78

Place of Birth: Tavistock, England
Time in Aust Colonies: NSW 50 years

Fathers Name: John Turner
Fathers Occupation: (none recorded)
Mothers Name: (none recorded)

Place of Marriage: England
Age at Marriage: about 27
Name of Spouse: Frederick Gately Stuart

Children of Marriage: Frederick W 44, Living; 1 Male, 1 Female deceased

Informant: F W Stuart, Son, 81 Berry St North Sydney

Cause of Death: Chronic Myocarditis, Chronic Brights Disease
Medical Attendant: W B Studdy
Date Last Seen: 26 Sep 1932


Date of Burial: 27 Sep 1932
Place of Burial: Church of England Cemetary Rookwood
Minister & Religion: J F Chapple Church of England
Undertaker: A E Secombe, Employed by Motor Funerals Ltd

Witnesses: A B Kennedy, Max B Walker

Registered: 1 Oct 1932- North Sydney

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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Thursday 11 November 21 08:04 GMT (UK)  »
Yes the information I have has come from typed transcriptions.  I've also ordered the 1908 marriage certificate so when that comes through I will share that Information.

1907/2655

Name: Maud Plummer
D.O.D: 14 Mar 1907
Place: Terry St Arncliffe
Sex: female
Age: 24

Place of birth: Woolloomooloo Sydney
Fathers name: Frederick Gately Stuart
Fathers occupation: Commercial traveller
Mothers name: Elizabeth Anne Turner (altered from Annie Turner)

Place of marriage: Darlinghurst, Sydney
Age at marriage: 19
Name of spouse: William Edward Plummer
Children of marriage: George F 4, Edward K 2 months, living, none deceased

Informant: W E Plummer, husband, Terry St Arncliffe

Cause of Death:
1. Pthisis Pulmonaris
2. Heart Failure
Length of Illness:
1. 12 months
2. 1 hour
Medical Attendant: Ernest A Woodward
Date last seen: 13 Mar 1907


Date if burial: 15 Mar 1907
Place of burial: Church of England cemetary Sutherland
Minister of religion: H R A Wilson, Anglican
Undertaker: Charles Kinsella
Witness: M Hardy, P Sommer

Registered: 14 Mar 1907 - Rockdale

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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Wednesday 10 November 21 22:28 GMT (UK)  »
Ohhhhhh right I understand, I guess makes sense, it was throwing me off so much!


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Australia / Re: New South Wales birth - Frank STUART
« on: Wednesday 10 November 21 22:13 GMT (UK)  »
Yes it's all very odd isn't it! I couldn't get my head around it lol

So do you think my Frank Stuart was actually born Frederick in UK?

I also don't know why the children of Elizabeth and Frederick weren't listed as his children on his death certificate?

Thank you all so much for your help I definitely couldn't do it myself

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