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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / What might Ancestry be up to?
« on: Sunday 17 April 22 06:36 BST (UK)  »
I have tested with FTDNA and uploaded my raw data to My Heritage so only know about Ancestry, from what I have gleaned through reading various threads here on rootschat.

As Ancestry are the only company who won’t share with others, I was considering buying an Ancestry DNA test at Christmas but was put off by some concerns about tests not reaching Ireland due to flight cancelations. There was also apparently some bullying and threats to ban going on by Ancestry on social media when people pointed out the issues with returning test kits from some parts of the world, which pit me off.

Over the past couple of days I have been reconsidering,in the hope that these issues have been resolved.

I do loads of online surveys, and serendipitously just now I completed one about DNA tests, specifically Ancestry. Many of the questions were asking which features I was aware that Ancestry provided, and which of a number of features would make me more likely to take an Ancestry DNA test. It hinted at the new side view by asking if I would be more likely to take a test if results were broken down into maternal and paternal sides.

Very few of the questions related to matching with living relatives, and those that did asked if I wouldn’t take a test because I didn’t want to be contacted by matches. I don’t know how it currently works with Ancestry - are you able to opt in or out of being contacted by anyone you match with? If they don’t already offer this, I got the impression this is something they are looking at to prevent all those pesky emails from people claiming that they are related to you.  ::)

Presumably they are testing the waters through this survey, but one set of questions was a bit worrying. It asked if you would be more or less likely to take an ancestry dna test if you need to:
- be a subscriber to do a test
- pay to access new features in the future
- pay more to see updates or changes to your results in the future
- pay a sub to access dna results in the future
Price hikes on the horizon perhaps?

It also asked the maximum price you would be willing to pay to take a test to just see your geographic and ethnic origins. ($50 was the lowest option they provided) Wonder if Ancestry are thinking of doing an ethnicity only test?

They also asked about sharing results with other companies - I presume that means other dna companies, though it wasn’t clear.

It will be interesting to see what, if any, changes they make after analyisng the survey replies.

I get the impression they know most of their testees are after the ethnicity results only (as per their advertisements), they aren’t interested in doing their own research (another question touched on this), nor do they want to be contacted by anyone who is a dna match.

Not sure that there are any positives in any of this but I thought this might be of interest.

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Norfolk Lookup Requests / Please help find family in 1911.
« on: Tuesday 04 January 22 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
I am not requesting a lookup as such, but would be grateful if someone can locate this family in the 1911 census and point me in the right direction please.

George Edward Hovell born 1907
His father George William b 1879
His mother Betsy Louisa b 1877 (she seems to be Betsy rather than Elizabeth on all records)

George and Betsy married in 1905.

The family all hail from Winterton, Norfolk. All were still alive in 1911.

Father George was seafaring so may not have been at home in 1911.

I’ve tried all the usual searching methods without success.

Thank you.  :)

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Scotland / Searching for Farrell family after 1911
« on: Saturday 29 August 20 07:21 BST (UK)  »
I would appreciate some assistance with locating members of this family please.

Some background:

1911 census
2 Crawford St, Greenock.
George Farrell head 50 widr bricklayer b Ayrshire, Saltcoats
Sarah Farrell sister 52 W
Peter son 16 S apprentice boat builder b Glasgow
Laurence son 13 b Renfrewshire, Greenock
Samuel son 4 b Greenock

George’s wife Maggie died in 1910.

There was an older son, George b 1890 who emigrated to Australia in 1910. I have information about his family and WW1 service. I also have the family in 1891 and 1901, plus some related of birth, death and marriage certificates.

It is specifically George snr and his sons that I am looking to track down after 1911. There are a few possible deaths and marriages on SP but I am hoping for some ideas or help on how to determine which, if any, might be the right people.

I considered that Peter might have joined up but I can’t see an exact match on Ancestry for a Peter Farrell serving in WW1.

Thanks for any help.  :)

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / ETHNICITY ESTIMATE WHITE PAPER
« on: Tuesday 05 November 19 04:33 GMT (UK)  »
This may be of interest to some, especially those who find that their ethnicity estimates are not what they expected:

https://www.ancestrycdn.com/dna/static/pdf/whitepapers/WhitePaper_2018_1130_update.pdf






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The Common Room / “Dr Livingstone, I presume”
« on: Tuesday 15 October 19 23:57 BST (UK)  »
I hope it is OK to pass on this challenge from the latest Lost Cousins newsletter. I haven’t looked at this myself but I thought others might be interested.

Please remove if it breaches any rules.  :)

Quote from Peter Calver in the Lost Cousins newsletter:
In search of Stanley
The words "Dr Livingstone, I presume" may never have been spoken by Stanley, but I can remember being told about them at a very early age, possibly at Sunday School. Henry Morton Stanley was commissioned by his editor to find Livingstone - but the task I'm going to set you is to find Stanley!
 
According to Wikipedia Henry Morton Stanley was born John Rowlands on 28th January 1841 in Denbigh, the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Parry, but brought up in his early years by Moses Parry, his maternal grandfather. Wikipedia and other sources record that his birth certificate referred to him as a bastard, but I've never seen that description on a birth certificate.
 
I had a quick look for the birth of John Rowlands or John Parry in the GRO birth index, but in the short time available I couldn't find an entry that fitted - nor could I find John in the 1841 Census. I think it's about time that the information on Wikipedia was checked (and updated if necessary), so perhaps the members of the LostCousins Forum can succeed where I failed? If you're not already a member of the forum check to see whether there is an invitation on your My Summary page - please don't write to me direct (this is a challenge for forum members only).
 
Note: I did find Stanley's autobiography online, but it didn’t seem to answer any of my questions.

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Australia / Mystery notation on 1907 Qld birth certificate
« on: Sunday 26 May 19 14:46 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know what these mean?

These symbols are on a 1907 Queensland birth certificate which I downloaded today. The bottom image is beside the mother's name, and the other is beside a note written in the border. The baby was illegitimate if that has any bearing. I have googled for possible explanations but found nothing.

Additionally, the birth certificate was not the usual foolscap orientation, rather it was laid out horizontally across two pages. I have not seen one like this before.

Apologies for the blurry images.

Thanks for any suggestions. Fingers crossed that this works*:
*it worked, but image is sideways - sorry.

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Cavan / How to pronounce Cavan
« on: Wednesday 17 April 19 05:54 BST (UK)  »
Very quick question for those of you who will know ...

How do you pronounce Cavan?

Cav-ann?
Ca- Vann?
Like Gavin with an "in" rather than an "an" sound at the end of the word?
or some other way?

This is probably more off topic but I thought putting it here might catch the eye of an Irish expert.

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Ireland / Advice on claim to Irish Peerage
« on: Monday 18 February 19 23:37 GMT (UK)  »
I hope someone can give me some advice and guidance regarding the application process for a (possible) claim to an Irish peerage. Does anyone have any personal experience of this?

I find this a complex subject and know nothing apart from what I have found via google in the past day or two. I would also be grateful for any help interpreting the information on this link:

https://www.debretts.com/expertise/essential-guide-to-the-peerage/claims-to-peerage/

The website seems to be skewed more towards English peerages though it also mentions Irish peerages (almost as an aside).

The Debretts link says you need to apply to the Lord Chancellor to be entered on the Roll. It says the application and supporting evidence is presented under the direction of the Lord Chancellor which is a bit vague.

It also says that anyone claiming a peerage should apply to the Lord Chancellor. It then says the registrar of the Roll of the Peerage is Ian Denyer who is the head of the Crown Office at the House of Lords. Is that the same thing or does he have a number of roles or does Ian Denyer pass all this on to the Lord Chancellor? I read this as indicating that Ian Denyer the person to contact in the first instance. Is this correct?

General questions about peerages:

If several people have claims do they all need to apply before being considered? It seems that anyone who may be entitled is not automatically contacted and offered the role?

Are there any duties or responsibilities or is the title in name only? (or does it depend which peerage?)  :-\

Does the closest relative to the current peer take precedence over a closer relative to the "original" peer, in this case, from the 1600s. For example, the current peer is a very distant relative of the previous peer, but there may have been closer living relatives who either did not know they had any entitlement, or did not apply for the peerage upon the death of the previous peer. (sorry, that sounds very complicated)  :(

The peerage in question has an "heir presumptive" according to Wikipedia, :-\  though it also says there are other distant cousins, which presumably also may have a claim to the title. Does an "heir presumptive" mean this person is already confirmed as next in line? (in which case it would be a waste of time applying) Would Ian Denyer tell me this if I enquired about this peerage? Or do you think he would consider other applicants to the title?

Do applications for the next peer need to be in place prior to the death of the current peer?

Do any applicants take priority over others, eg those living in a different country are less likely to gain the title?

Apologies for the huge thread, and for asking so many questions, but thank you for any assistance with this.  :)

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / My Heritage question - Managing more than one kit
« on: Monday 24 December 18 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone who knows their way around My Heritage would be kind enough to help me with an issue I am having with the site.

I have just uploaded my father's raw data from FTDNA to My Heritage, and am managing both his and my kits.

My problem is that I can't find out how to view his matches.

Under "DNA" is a pull down menu. If I select "manage DNA kits" I can see both of our details including kit numbers. Both say "results are ready".  However when I click on the three dots beside his name and select "view DNA results" I just see my own results not his. I was not given the option to have a different email address or password for his account, so if I log out of my account I cannot log into his, as he doesn't have one.

Where are his results hiding? Have I done something wrong? I realise that My Heritage are now charging to use the Chromosome Browser and some other features that used to be free up until a couple of weeks ago. Is this the problem? Can't I view anything on his account until I pay up?

I have looked in the help section which tells me that to view other accounts I need to "select another person" from the drop down menu. I have looked everywhere but cannot see "select another person" on any of the drop down menus.  :-\

My Heritage do not seem to have an option to contact them via email (my preferred method), only phone, and I do not want to ring them so close to Christmas, hence posting this question here.

Help please! :)

Thanks a lot.  :)

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