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Quote from: Andrea Pea on Thursday 14 July 22 03:49 BST (UK)

And he did come out to work at Lithgow arms NSW but they had no record of him.

The Lithgow small arms factory did not open until 1912.  It was still being built and awaiting the machinery when Joseph's son was born in Sydney in August 1911.

The earliest electoral roll that I can see them on in WA is 1915.

Debra 

https://www.lithgowsafmuseum.org.au/history.html

Jamjar

Another immigration possibility ......

Mr and Mrs Parkes (British)
- passengers on “MONGOLIA” from London to Sydney, arriving 16 November 1910
No other detail on passenger manifest.

I’d discounted this one, as it has PARKES T. Of course, a T could easily be mistranscribed from a J.

https://marinersandships.com.au/1910/11/104mon.htm

The Moldavia also left Fremantle on the 21st. 2nd page, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article229688930

Jamjar

Well, I’ve run out of ideas.

I can see no Philip/Phoebe, Joseph/Mary marriages. Nor, censuses for Philip/Phoebe, young Joseph.

I wonder if he left a family behind, running off with Mary, while changing his name. It has happened before.

Say he married, in 1908, doesn’t mean that he did.

Do the certificates actually give the name PARKES as his folk’s surname?

Jamjar

May Eaves Claridge born Dec quarter 1882 Birmingham
mother - Parsonage
birth certificate can be obtained from the GRO

CLARIDGE, CHARLES  PIDDINGTON mmn PARSONAGE death Jun 1867 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in DAVENTRY UNION  Volume 03B  Page 108

CLARIDGE, HARRY  JAMES mmn PARSONAGE death Jun 1905
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in DAVENTRY UNION  Volume 03B  Page 113
Marriage:
Jun 1885 Birmingham   6d 71
CLARIDGE Harry James
BATES Alice
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGDL-X3GH
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W77Y-QY2M
1891:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W2RV-PW2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSZJ-WFJ
2nd marriage:
Jun 1906 Birmingham    6d 338
NIELD Allan
CLARIDGE Alice
Death: Dec 1910 Aston 6d 251
NIELD Allan 36
Possible death:
Jun 1912 Birmingham 6d 17
NIELD Alice 47
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCB-TDL

CLARIDGE, FLORENCE  EAVES mmn PARSONAGE 
GRO Reference: 1876  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 192
Marriage:
Jun 1896 Aston 6d 543
RICHARDS James
CLARIDGE Florence Eaves
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZZ-337

CLARIDGE, MINNIE  CAVES mmn PARSONAGE death Dec 1884
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 164

CLARIDGE, EDITH  EAVES mmn PARSONAGE death Mar 1883
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 181

CLARIDGE, MAY  EAVES mmn PARSONAGE 
GRO Reference: 1882  D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 129

Marriage: Dec 1864 Daventry 3b   237
CLARIDGE James   
PARSONAGE Mary    

I don’t know how the hubby became know as Harry:

CLARIDGE, JAMES mmn THOMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in DAVENTRY UNION  Volume 15  Page 247
1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGY9-Y98
1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PC-ZG5

PARSONAGE, MARY mmn TURNER 
GRO Reference: 1841  D Quarter in ST OLAVE'S UNION, SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 419
Parent’s marriage:
Sep 1841  St Olaves 4 458
PARSONAGE John
TURNER Jane
1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6C-J2V

May’s family, 1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YZ-7TG

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27N-CW2N

May, 1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W2LX-H3Z

May, 1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSZD-CLB

Possibility, mother 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZ9-8Y5

Jamjar

But if his birth is right his mother is Eliza or Elizabeth

See reply #22 onwards.

Jamjar