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Cavan / Fitzpatricks of Belturbet
« on: Friday 28 December 07 03:10 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for information on Daniel Fitzpatrick and Mary Cosgrove (my g-g-grandparents) from Derryvona a few miles north of Belturbet.  They had  the following children:
James c1840, Philip c1850, Michael c1855 who emmigrated to Gympie, Australia to mine gold in the years between 1860's and 1880's, Hugh c1844 who emmigrated to America and became a policeman in New York, Patrick who married Bridget Cassidy, Mary who possibly married a Nolan and Thomas.
If anyone can provide any other information I would greatly appreciate it.
Kath

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: HICKES mystery mid 1800's
« on: Thursday 11 October 07 02:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dave

Yes you're right!  Well, you might have deepened the mystery with this query, but you have also provided me with more on the extended family. 

John Heathfield Hickes is the son of Thomas Hickes who is the brother of Nicholas Hickes, father to my Thomas (b1750, Frank and Weston's grandfather) - hope that makes sense.  It does not show the relationship between Weston and Jane Weston but I would imagine they are brother and sister going by their birth dates.  I would also imagine that this is probably who my Weston is named after, given that it's not used very often in the family except as the second name.  The members of my family are listed on this site at St Mary's churchyard in Berkeley.

Cheers Kath

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: HICKES mystery mid 1800's
« on: Wednesday 10 October 07 22:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi Althea
Yes that's me and I am also listed in ancestry.
Regards Kath

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Hickes mystery mid 1800's
« on: Tuesday 09 October 07 02:05 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately Osprey, I don't think this is my relative.  There were a few Francis Hicks in Cornwall at the time, and I have found Frank's birth entry for Oct/Nov/Dec Q in 1842 and he is definately listed as Frank not Francis.  It was worth the try though.
Regards Kath

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Hickes mystery mid 1800's
« on: Monday 08 October 07 11:54 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that Osprey, this is a possibility, I will see what I can find out about this one. 
In my earlier postiing I mentioned that Thomas b1806 remarried to widower Emma Blee.  Emma's first husband Henry Blee was an ironmonger and their only child also Henry was apprenticed to Thomas as a surveyor.  Perhaps there was some arrangement made throught the families for his employ there.

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Hickes mystery mid 1800's
« on: Monday 08 October 07 07:30 BST (UK)  »
Yes, Thomas was born in Stone near Berkeley in 1806.  I have just checked my records and Thomas' father also Thomas died in 1842, and his mother Elizabeth died in 1840, so they would not have gone there.  I will check the links you sent me and see what I can find.
Many thanks Kath

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Hickes mystery mid 1800's
« on: Monday 08 October 07 06:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for that, the records that I viewed did have the house numbers on it, but it still remains, even if the enumerator changed the numbering, why would it have been changed back again?
I have not checked for Frank in other countries as I'm not sure he was even alive, but perhaps I will need to start down this track.  However, Weston was clearly still alive and in England, but does not appear anywhere.  I'm sorry for my ignorance but where is Stroud?  I have checked all of the census records for Thomas' parents and siblings and can't find them there, although I haven't been able to get a 'hit' on all of them during that year, but I've covered most of them and all of what is available on line (there were 9 siblings).  Hmmmmm!
Oh well I'll just keep plodding along!
Kath  :)

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Hickes mystery mid 1800's
« on: Monday 08 October 07 04:51 BST (UK)  »
Hello Althea
Thanks for your response, yes I knew Thomas Snr had moved to Elm Cottage and he is still there in the 1881 census.  Thomas died in 1887 and his son Thomas James then moves into Elm Cottage.  Interestingly I have a record of Thomas and family in the 1841 record (under Hicks) living at no 7 Prospect Place, so they went from no 7 in 1841 to no 16 in 1851 and back to number 7 in 1861.  If there was no number 7 in 1851, then perhaps this house was destroyed for some reason?  It just seems to add to the mystery of it all!!
Kath

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / HICKES mystery mid 1800's
« on: Monday 08 October 07 02:41 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone can help me please.  I am looking for information on Frank and Weston Hickes, this is what I have to date.
In the 1851 census it shows Thomas Hickes 46 Surveyor of Roads and County Bridges, wife Grace (nee Blee) 39. Thomas James 11, Edward 10 (my g-grandgather), Frank 8 and Weston 6 all living at 16 Prospect Place, Truro, Cornwall. 
In 1857 Grace dies, so her sons would be Thomas 17, Edward 16, Frank 14 and Weston 12 at the time of her death.  By the 1861 census, Thomas Snr has remarried to widower Emma Blee (nee Osler) living at 7 Prospect Place (why would they move across the street ?) with Thomas James now 21 and assistant to his father as a surveyor and Edward 20 a Seaman.  I can find no other record of Frank or Weston except for Weston's death in 1864 aged 19.  Clearly he is still alive during the 1861 census, but I'm at a loss as to where to find him. 
Does anyone know of the protocol for boys aged 12 and 14 at the time of their mother's death?  Would they have been sent to boarding school and if so, are there records available for this, or would they have been sent to another member of the family?  I would imagine that if they were with another member of the family it would still show up in a census record, but I can not find anything.  If anyone can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. 
Many thanks Kath

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