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Hi Wizz
Thanks for looking, but James was down as Sharp in the 1881 census and living with his grandparents in Radcliffe, along with one of his brothers.........William.....
His mother did marry a William Howarth in 1875..they had a daughter Elizabeth in 1876...
But in 1881 they were in Widnes at 51 Lacey Street, along with Sarahs eldest son John Robert Shard...
Thanks for looking

Hope you had a good Christmas....

Cissy

 
Just before I go....
Robert Shard born 1884, his mother died young, possibly not long after he was born...
Do you think here's a chance he may have been sent to an orphanage........ clutching at straws again
If his father was in the Army he wouldn't have been able to care for him...

Carol

 
Now you know how I feel...........
This part of my tree has been doing my head in since May...

I first thought that there was only one of them, but there's a marriage for the other Robert Hy in 1908 he married Beatrice Scholes, I know this is mine as he was my mums uncle and she saw him often....
I'm also intouch with one of his grandchildren...

I have marriage certs for both of them...
And Robert Hy didn't move to Widnes to marry...LOL   
thanks for your time

Carol

 
I am told that James married twice, although can only find the second one, the one in 1895.....
The problem is that james was on the 1881 census, but he too then disappeared, I'm led to believe he joined the Army and served with the south africa corp, at some point...
He could have married anywhere...
His mum was living in the Widnes area in 1891 as was his other brother John Robert Shard....
James isn't on the 1901 census either, but I have his death cert and he died in 1908 at Bury Union Workhouse....
This family causes such a headache...


Robert married twice, or so I'm told....
His second marriage was to his cousin in 1912....Elizabeth Shard..
Would not have had to show his birth cert before he married....
Carol

 
Robert Shard born 5th August 1884 in Widnes....
His father was James Shard born 1865, registered at Bolton, although born in Kearsley...
Mother ...Unknown.... this is why I'm trying to find info so that i can apply for a birth cert....
William Shard was James's Brother....
Carol