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United States of America / Re: Frank Samuel Charles PASSANT b. 1881 NY
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
1900 Philadelphia 

Dorothy Passant  age 24 b. 1875 in  England  Single  Imm  1883 as SIL   Occ:  ??  Steno ??    in the household of 

Thomas COCKER  b. 1855 England  Imm 1882  Occ:  Manfc. Brushes ??
Mary  34    b. Aug 1866 England   Assuming nee is Passant   Imm: 1883
son Fred    b.  May 1890 NJ
dau Bessie b. 1892 PA
dau Edith   b. 1895 PA

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United States of America / Re: Frank Samuel Charles PASSANT b. 1881 NY
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 18:58 GMT (UK)  »
Rosia Veltra is MIL in 1900 b. in Italy  and appears that Antonio and Theresa married in Italy before coming over as well.

The born in Italy bit is interesting --  but NO mention in my friends family of Italian heritage which seems very strange.  Not sure that would have been left aside.  But only mussing aloud here!   

20 years between Frank and this Antonio.   The mention found in the newpaper would have made the Anthony Robert 100 years old  which would indicated a length settlement of property or a 2nd generation involved ??

There is a Passant family in Shropshire in 1841-1861   --  anything interesting there ???

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United States of America / Re: railroads
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
could  only speculate   ---  my 1st guess,   money ??  travel papers of some kind or some work or family commitment getting in the way of leaving ??   you see " Titanic"  ??  :)

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United States of America / Re: Frank Samuel Charles PASSANT b. 1881 NY
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 17:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi detorri!   don't know anything for Anthony --   what census for the above  -  1900 ??   


great!   thanks for the additions!  will look into that further!

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United States of America / Frank Samuel Charles PASSANT b. 1881 NY
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 17:26 GMT (UK)  »
Helping a friend find out more info on her great grandfather, Frank Samuel Charles PASSANT.     

Frank Passant bc 1881  New York. 
In 1910, Frank’s age computes to a 1884 birth date.
In 1910 and 1930 says his parents from France.
Frank Passant m. Leanna nee Lindsey and they lived in PA --  Newcastle. 
They are in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census (Butler, PA) 
Thomas L.  b. 1903 is the 1st born child (see below)
Frank died in October 30, 1939 in Pittsburgh

Just this weekend found in a family cedar chest, grandfather’s birth cert (this would be the cert of son, Thomas Lindsey Passant b. 1903 )  which says his father (our subject, Frank Samuel  Passant)  was 22 yrs on April 30, 1903  and shows his birthplace was West Chester, NY.  It's a delayed birth certificate that the son signed as "true and correct".

Most is known after his marriage to Leanna.  However, before that nothing is known about him, his parents etc. 

Have not found Frank S.C. Passant in the 1900 census in NY or PA.
There is a WWI registration filed for him in Alleghany Co., PA
Newspaper archives have various mentions around the Newcastle, PA area for family events, business transactions, deaths of family members  but no further details on Frank found mentioned.  There are mentions of Leanna’s Lindsay side of the family.

There is a mention of Anthony Robert Passant (business transaction in PA) concerning either Frank S.C. or his son Frank S.C. b. 1905.  But no one knows who Anthony Robert is.

Appreciate any insights/information.  Have been looking and looking including various Americanized name derivatives and have found nothing

Thanks!!!

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United States of America / Re: railroads
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 17:21 GMT (UK)  »
uh  --  I don't!   Had Jane"  in my mind  which is Martin's mother!   sorry!  :-[

but not TOO embarassed if this proves to be a solid lead  ;D

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United States of America / Re: railroads
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
Could it be  Mt. Pleasant, shelly?  Very strange   ---  had just looked at below but Wife's name not right.

1900  Mt. Peasant Township  (part of Spring Garden & Bridgeport Townships) Spring Garden Villiage, Westmoreland Co.,  PA
Martin Madden Age 37  b. Sep 1862  in Ireland  Imm:  1881   Occ: Day Labor   Everyone else on the page works in Coal Mining
Wife Jenny Age 35  b.  June 1864 England Parents Irish  Married 15 years  11 children born/7 living  Imm: 1880
Children:  All b. in PA
John 13
Margaret A.  9
Martin 8
Joseph 6
dau Mary? E, 4
Patrick 3

Not seeing another good match in 1900 in Philadelphia. 
Alleghany Co. (Philadelphia) is adjacent to Westmorleand Co.


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United States of America / Re: railroads
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
Have you done any research and eliminated any findings yet or just starting out ??  IMO,  the RR connection is a sidebar after you narrow down some possibilities.   There probably aren't going to be any RR works lists unless you get very lucky on exactly which RR and exactly when. Transient laborers might not appear in the census. 

He also could have had any number of jobs with a RR that would have kept him stationary rather than a RR builder and then could be anywhere in a very large country.

On the familysearch pilot site,  1900 census -  has the most details  --  and you think he might be alive then. 

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1205089539171#p=home

See if you find anything likely.  No 1890 census (destroyed in a fire) to back in to if you find something.  Would be 1880 and 1910 to track forward or in reverse. 

Maybe you know all that and just haven't said so apologies if this sounds patronizing.
 :)

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US Lookup Requests / Re: Death of Catherine Rowcliff about 1860
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 13:54 GMT (UK)  »
But not Catherine's dau ,  2nd wifes and Stehphen's child.   Interesting....  for the 2nd wife!   

I looked for more yesterday but nothing more to add to the puzzle yet.   Will try again today.



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