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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Where in Oxfordshire was this chap born?
« on: Friday 21 January 11 09:38 GMT (UK)  »
The two Banbury ones are out of the picture. Wrong parents on 1901 census.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Where in Oxfordshire was this chap born?
« on: Friday 21 January 11 09:28 GMT (UK)  »
So we have more support for Walter being born abt 1888 and two younger siblings which might help track the family later. 10 month old Edith would have been born around August 1893, so should have been registered Q3 or just in Q4. There's an Edith Florence Webb and an Edith Sarah Webb both reg in Banbury in Q4 1893 and an Edith Ellen Webb Q3 Witney - but Banbury looks more likely. Strange to have small children with no mother especially a 10 month old baby. Possibly the mother may have died.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Where in Oxfordshire was this chap born?
« on: Friday 21 January 11 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
Oxford canal map can be viewed here
http://www.waterscape.com/canals-and-rivers/oxford-canal/map

The Oxford end is off Hythe Bridge Street ( A4144). This matches with Hythe Bridge Wharf given as the boats mooring place on a couple of censuses. Going north it passes through Banbury, Cropredy, Napton (link to Grand Union), Braunston (link with Grand Union or Grand Junction) then round east and north of Rugby to the coal fields north of Coventry. It is unlikely any marriage or birth too far from this route would be connected with your Walter.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Where in Oxfordshire was this chap born?
« on: Friday 21 January 11 07:28 GMT (UK)  »
The Walter registered in Wycombe district in Q1 1888 appears on 1891 census. He is son of Robert Webb a strawplaiter living in Wendover, Bucks.

Correction:
Robert is shoemaker - mother is strawplaiter

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Honesty (or not) of census returns
« on: Thursday 20 January 11 16:56 GMT (UK)  »
She was still married to first husband but for longer than 22 years at that time and they had 2 children. She decamped to live with my relative with her youngest child. The abandoned husband claimed he was a widower in 1901, by 1911 he had bigamously married another woman and had two children by her. In the household was another boy he claimed as his son, with a surname different from the husband or either wife. So he may have had another relationship between the two marriages and the woman had left or died.
Who says the Victorians were boring and staid!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Where in Oxfordshire was this chap born?
« on: Thursday 20 January 11 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
Has anyone found a marriage record for Walter D Webb (your Walter's father)?  I looked with no luck.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: looking for soldier on 1891 census
« on: Thursday 20 January 11 16:42 GMT (UK)  »
It looks as though he was in Ireland on census date. The reason I wanted to find him was he had a wife and child in the 1901 and 1911 censuses. He claimed he had been married 22 years (1 year older than the son!). I have never found a record for marriage or birth of the child. His army record doesn't show that he was married. The marriage allegedly being in 1888/9. I have since found the child in 1891 with his mother ( the woman living with Henry in 1901 and 1911) and father. He is registered with the father's surname. It looks as if Henry was serving in Ireland at the time the child would have been conceived - a long way from Essex. To add to the complication the child's real father seems to have claimed he was a widower and bigamously married another woman by 1911!

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: looking for soldier on 1891 census
« on: Thursday 20 January 11 13:33 GMT (UK)  »
His name was Henry Eltham born Abingdon, Berkshire in 1868. I've found him easily in 1901 and 1911. In 1881 he was in the Industrial School in Clifton Glos - so presumably a naughty boy! He was listed for some reason under the name Richard - which was his father's name. I can only think his father (being alive at the time) was listed on school records as next of kin, and it was confused with Henry's name when compiling census return. In 1871 he and his parents and siblings are in Abingdon living with maternal grandmother, Elizabeth Parker.
Fortunately Eltham is not a common surname but is often misspelt Eltum, Eltam, Altham and even Heltham.  
It looks like those with just initials (presumably for anonymity) are in asylums, not the military. In the 1891 census I think he would be a drummer. He resigned his lance corporal's stripe in Oct 1890 (after 20 days!) then asked for a transfer a few days before census day.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: looking for soldier on 1891 census
« on: Thursday 20 January 11 12:07 GMT (UK)  »
Although he was serving at "home", I've just noticed from his medical record he was treated in hospital but not admitted in Feb 1891 in Cork, so I suspect he may have been in Ireland for the census. Also he requested a transfer on 1st April 1891, so his service is shown in two parts - up to 1 Apr '91 and from 2 Apr '91. He was in Royal Berks regt. Would soldiers in English regiment but stationed in Ireland not be included on FindMyPast? Or could his transfer a couple of days before census date meant he got lost from the records?

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