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The Lighter Side / Oh Dear, a dark secret discovered in a friend's tree
« on: Saturday 24 September 11 10:31 BST (UK)  »
While searching in a friend's tree, I discovered a dark secret which I cannot in all honesty reveal to her. [She doesn't have a computer and is not internet savvy so is unlikeley to read this]

I always thought it curious that her grandmother's youngest child was born when she was 52. I searched the certs etc and found out that my friend's mum had him out of wedlock. He was therefore her half-brother who she always believed to be her uncle. Father's name on cert is not the same as her father.
Scenario, her grandparents must have adopted him as far as everyone must have known, he was the youngest child.

I cannot bring myself to reveal this secret, as they say ignorance is bliss. Although her tree wont exactly be 'correct'. I will leave that for others to find out.
She has paid for research [certs etc]

Am I right in doing this?

The Lighter Side / 'Visiting' old addresses, ancestral locations etc. via Street View
« on: Friday 02 September 11 11:42 BST (UK)  »
I have just been on a nation wide 'tour' via G****e Street View, looking up old addresses and locations. Some are still standing, others like the place of my birth is now covered by a T***o supermarket.

Anybody else done this?

The Lighter Side / Radio 4 'Tracing Your Roots' 13:30 Today
« on: Sunday 20 March 11 08:08 GMT (UK)  »
In the Tracing Your Roots ' series a special programme on the census

The Lighter Side / Cousins and degrees of kinship
« on: Friday 03 September 10 06:39 BST (UK)  »
In our researches, most of us have come across 1st,2nd and 3rd cousins plus the times removed.

I have an 8th cousin recently added to my tree and going through my list I have all the degrees of kinship from 1st to 8th and the times removed contained therein
I am in contact with a 3rd cousin

My question is, what are the furthest and most distant cousins anyone has found. [living or dead],what degree of kinship in your tree is anyone in contact with?

Also, how far can you go with degrees of kinship, before they include your neighbours !

The Lighter Side / Our ancestors didn't make it easy for us...
« on: Sunday 29 August 10 23:28 BST (UK)  »
We have all had our lists of the same first names throughout our trees.
I have just finished a branch of my tree.

William and Eleanor had three sons:

William, Thomas and John

William's [Jnr] first born was William, Thomas, ditto, John, ditto.
William's second born was Thomas, his third child was John.
Thomas' second born was Thomas, his third child John
John's second born was John, his third child was Thomas.

They were all born within 10 years of each other and in the same street.

Luckily I had an ancestor of Thomas [John's third born] with all the information neatly drawn, who had made contact, otherwise I might have been a little dazed by the time I had sorted them.

Also William [Jnr] and Thomas each had a daughter Eleanor !

Derbyshire / GUY family, Chesterfield
« on: Tuesday 27 July 10 07:31 BST (UK)  »
Thomas and Ann Maria Guy moved from Madeley in Shropshire to Chesterfield after 1907 and before the 1911 census.
The children were:

William b c1888 Shropshire, Beatrice b 1889 Shropshire, Thomas b c1892 Shropshire, Emma b c1894 Shropshire, John b c1895 Shropshire, James b c1896 Shropshire, Sarah Ann b c1899 Shropshire , Joseph Richard b c1901 Shropshire, Elizabeth b c1904 Shropshire, Albert b c1907 Shropshire and Annie Maria b c1911 in Holmewood, Chesterfield.
Beatrice Guy b 1889 in Madeley Shropshire was my paternal grandmother and I have traced her line back. I am now seeking any descendants of her siblings who originate in the Chesterfield area.

The Lighter Side / Has this ever happened to you?
« on: Friday 02 July 10 23:09 BST (UK)  »
Researching my tree over the years, I have had many twists and turns, brick walls, blind alleys, wrong turnings etc.etc.
I searched for many years, before the internet age, down to London’s record offices, Kew and beyond. Lots of painstaking work, but now I can feel quite satisfied, that I have a fairly comprehensive and organised tree.

A friend was very interested in starting her tree and asked me to give her a start and a few pointers in the right direction.
She had some certs which was handy and both her maternal and paternal great grandparents were married in 1910, which was also a good start.

So straight away I went to the 1911 census and found them. To cut a long story short, I have traced both her lines back to the ’41 census and found lots of ancestors for her to ‘start’ on.

What took me about 5 years to search for my own, has taken me an afternoon to locate hers!
Maybe in this internet age searching is easier [to start with anyway]

A least she didn’t say something like ‘that was easier than I imagined’

The Lighter Side / A family tree shocker for a friend
« on: Tuesday 02 February 10 10:26 GMT (UK)  »
Helping a friend to compile his family tree, we went to visit a great aunt, who on the phone said she ‘couldn’t tell us much’, but had some old photos and papers we would be welcome to look at.
So off we went to Aylesbury and after making us a cup of tea his aunt got out all the papers and photos, a huge pile in a trunk. Birth, marriage and death certificates, baptism records, rent books, army pay books, and ration books etc etc. a goldmine.
While I was busy photographing all this, my friend was chatting with his great aunt about the people in the photos and came a cross a photo of 3 children. He asked his aunt who they were. ‘They are from your father’s first marriage’ she replied………………………………[stunned silence]………..
My friend had been born in 1960 and both his parents were now deceased. But all through his life, no mention was ever made of this, from anyone in the family either before or after his parent’s demise.

His great aunt had the relevant certificates in her possession. His Father’s first marriage certificate and the children’s birth certs. They were married in 1950 and the children born in 1952, 1953 and 1955. They live in Wellington NZ with their mother.

Don’t know what ‘went on’ and don’t want to know.
They have an uncommon surname and were not to hard to find, my friend has contacted the eldest half sibling, only yesterday. My friend has a sister who lives in Christchurch NZ who was just as ‘gobsmacked’ to hear the news.

Goes to show, those who know everything, know a lot, those who know nothing know more.

The Lighter Side / Discovering unwelcome tree facts. A story
« on: Monday 11 January 10 07:46 GMT (UK)  »
During my schooldays [late 50's-early 60's] there was one teacher who was nothing but a vicous brute and a bully. He picked on the smallest and weakest and would use the cane on them liberally.
He enjoyed caning, we used to call him 'the tennis player', because of the way his foot would leave the ground and his arm movement, as he caned his victims.
This was the only teacher in the whole of my schooldays who I detested.

After leaving school, my family moved to another area.
 I then found out that he lived in the same area as me.
In later years when I started using pubs, he would sometimes use the same pub as myself. Him and his cronies [ a rugby crowd] would sit all night boozing, making the usual sexist/racist/ foul mouthed comments.
Why this man had the capacity to be a teacher I will never know.
We had a couple of confrontations [usually drunken] ending up in fisticuffs.
Anyhow I moved south and 15 years ago started researching my family tree.

I have just discovered that he is my 2nd cousin once removed. No mistake,fact

He still alive in his 80's [only the good die young?]

Cant love 'em all I suppose

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