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Australia / which George MOSS
« on: Friday 06 April 12 01:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Rootschat Members,
Just hoping for some fresh eyes on a problem we have been looking at for some years now
George Moss aka Gabriel Moss married Sarah Ann Davies in Sydney in 1839 (George was a convict and obtained permission to marry Sarah who had arrived free) They had 8 male and 4 female offspring, between 1837 and 1854. Sarah died in 30th December 1861. George married Mary Ann Heuston in 1864 they had 4 children 2 male 2 female. (1 female born in Melbourne 1 male died in Melbourne)
Certificates of marriages and deaths & burial held. Convict records held.
Other researchers claim that he was also the father of 4 children; 3 female 1 male; to Jane Batwell between 1862 and 1866.
We think that the researchers have latched on to the coincidence of the closeness between the George Moss's death in 1874 and Janes Batwell's subsequent legal marriage to James Napthali later that year,
From an online site (my comments in red):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~smithwoods/indiI00019.html
There is no certificate to record of the birth or baptism of either Albert or Rose. On the birth certificate for Annie & Rebecca, they both list their parents as Jane Batwell and George Moss, as store keeper and that the marriage was in 1861 in Sydney.
Sarah did not die until 30th December 1861 this would indeed have meant he was a bigamist Rebecca was born in 1863 when jane was living at Liverpool St. Previous children of marriage is listed a "1 boy living".
In 1866 Jane was living with her parents, (as her mother sick, and died in 1866) at South head Rd. In 1866 Annie Leah was born, however on the birth certificate the previous children of marriage are listed as:
3 females, 6 males living by first wife (in 1866 our George had 4 females and 7 males living)
2 females, 1 male living by previous wife ( If this in intended to refer to MARY ANN H? her children were born 1865, 1867,1869 1871 does not seem possible that they could be included on the 1866 Annie Leah's birth certificate!!!!)
On George Moss' death certificate in 1874 Mary Ann states 2 sons 1 daughter living 1 deceased which again again contradicts the above information (3 born Sydney 1 born Melbourne).
from another researcher:
The above seems to me to preclude the George Moss m to Sarah Davies being the father of Jane's children
We have been researching all references to GEORGE MOSS in Sydney at that time to find another possible candidate.
cont
Just hoping for some fresh eyes on a problem we have been looking at for some years now
George Moss aka Gabriel Moss married Sarah Ann Davies in Sydney in 1839 (George was a convict and obtained permission to marry Sarah who had arrived free) They had 8 male and 4 female offspring, between 1837 and 1854. Sarah died in 30th December 1861. George married Mary Ann Heuston in 1864 they had 4 children 2 male 2 female. (1 female born in Melbourne 1 male died in Melbourne)
Certificates of marriages and deaths & burial held. Convict records held.
Other researchers claim that he was also the father of 4 children; 3 female 1 male; to Jane Batwell between 1862 and 1866.
We think that the researchers have latched on to the coincidence of the closeness between the George Moss's death in 1874 and Janes Batwell's subsequent legal marriage to James Napthali later that year,
From an online site (my comments in red):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~smithwoods/indiI00019.html
There is no certificate to record of the birth or baptism of either Albert or Rose. On the birth certificate for Annie & Rebecca, they both list their parents as Jane Batwell and George Moss, as store keeper and that the marriage was in 1861 in Sydney.
Sarah did not die until 30th December 1861 this would indeed have meant he was a bigamist Rebecca was born in 1863 when jane was living at Liverpool St. Previous children of marriage is listed a "1 boy living".
In 1866 Jane was living with her parents, (as her mother sick, and died in 1866) at South head Rd. In 1866 Annie Leah was born, however on the birth certificate the previous children of marriage are listed as:
3 females, 6 males living by first wife (in 1866 our George had 4 females and 7 males living)
2 females, 1 male living by previous wife ( If this in intended to refer to MARY ANN H? her children were born 1865, 1867,1869 1871 does not seem possible that they could be included on the 1866 Annie Leah's birth certificate!!!!)
On George Moss' death certificate in 1874 Mary Ann states 2 sons 1 daughter living 1 deceased which again again contradicts the above information (3 born Sydney 1 born Melbourne).
from another researcher:
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There is no recorded marriage for Jane and George in the colony of NSW, though the birth certificates of their children list George had 8 living children form his first marriage, and 4 from his second. Hence the mystery.
The above seems to me to preclude the George Moss m to Sarah Davies being the father of Jane's children
We have been researching all references to GEORGE MOSS in Sydney at that time to find another possible candidate.
cont
