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United States of America / Percy Wild, arr. USA 1909
« on: Wednesday 30 May 07 17:24 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone with easier access to US records than me could have a look for my great uncle Percy Wild?

He was born in Darwen, Lancashire, England in 1887, and I have him on the English census in 1891 and 1901.

I've been using Ancestry pay per view, which is costing a fortune, hence this request for any help from anyone with full access or access to other sources.

I think the key things I'd like to find are:
1) details of his arrival in 1909
2) details of his marriage and his spouse
3) details of his death

I'm not aware of them having had children.

I've found the following for him in the USA:
  • 1909: First arrived in USA (I have this from the 1920 and 1930 US Federal censuses): I would love to be able to trace him actually arriving!
  • 1910: Resident in Aug 1910 in Newmarket, New Hampshire (I know this from his brother Henry's immigration record in 1910)  But I can't find him on the 1910 census.
  • 1912: Married Alice /?/ (source: 1930 US Census).  I'd love to have more details of the marriage and Alice's surname.  She was born in England around 1890, but according to the 1920 census also immigrated in 1909, so I'm assuming the marriage was in the US. 
  • 1914: Resident Newmarket, New Hampshire (brother Henry's immigration records)
  • 1919: 26 Sep - naturalised.  (source: 1920 census)
  • 1920 census: 629 Central Ave, Pawtucket, Rhode Island
  • Sep 1920: returning on the SS Laconia to Boston from Liverpool - I know from family oral history that he made a number of trips back to England.  (His mother went to visit him in 1938 at the ripe old age of 77!  I still have the decrepit old trunk she took, and a White Star Line coat hanger which must have accidentally fallen into the trunk when she was packing! ::))
  • 1930 census: 5 Blackstone Street, Cumberland, Providence, Rhode Island
  • 1936: resident at 16 Chaplin St, Pawtucket, Rhode Island (source: immigration record from another trip to England)

Percy was what in Lancashire would have been called a tatler at a cotton mill.  Apparently he did very well for himself in the USA.

Here's Percy and Alice, just so you know who I'm looking for  ;D ;D


thanks every so much

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Armed Forces / 19th century military service
« on: Sunday 27 May 07 17:33 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone could give any pointers how we might follow up this ancestor's military service, and either confirm or refute the family traditions?

Robert Humphrey Housley born 30 Aug 1852 Bicker, Lincolnshire, died 30 Oct 1932 Blackpool.

We don't know his regiment, but on the 1871 census he is a "soldier" at the Sheffield Barracks, Nether Hallam, Sheffield. 

We can't find him again on a census until 1901, though he had left the army by April 1894 when he married in Blackpool, giving his occupation as a Cab Proprietor.

One branch of the family has a tradition that he was Lord Kitchener's batman at some point.

Another branch of the family has a tradition that he "was in the British Indian Army and served at some point in Afghanistan (or at least along the border).

Thanks for any advice.

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England / Removal Orders
« on: Sunday 20 May 07 14:25 BST (UK)  »
While randomly putting family names into the search engine on the Access to Archives website, it came up with these two entries:

Lancashire Quarter Sessions, Preston, Michaelmas 1826
FILE - Over Darwen to Quick, West Riding, co. York. Order of removal of Henry Wild, Phoebe his wife, and Mary, Henry, John, James, Charles and Phoebe their children - ref.  QSP/2887/61  - date: 1826 4 Aug

Lancashire Quarter Sessions, Preston, Michaelmas 1827
FILE - Over Darwen to Saddleworth, West Riding, co. York. Order of removal of Henry Wild, Phoebe his wife and Mary, Henry, John, James, Charles and Phoebe their children - ref.  QSP/2870/93  - date: 1826 4 Aug

As I understand it removal orders were made to transfer responsibility for a family from one Parish to another.  What's interesting in this case, is that the family seem not to have removed themselves, as they stayed in Darwen through to the start of the 20th century (actually I think some  of  the more distant Wilds are still in Darwen).

I'm puzzled as to why the record would apparently be duplicated, in subsequent years' records - and the actual order is dated the same, just the place they're being removed to changing subtly.  Unless the Parish tried to get rid of them and they didn't go, but used the order made the previous year to try again before the next year's quarter sessions.    Makes it sound like a 19th century ASBO!

Can anyone advise me what the original documents might contain?  Is there more detail and explanation in the original documents that would make it worth getting copies?

If anyone can point me to a website with more information on how such removal orders worked, I'd be really grateful.  I've tried google, but there are so many modern sorts of removal order that they swamp the results.

thanks for your advice!

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Hello again,

I posted the photo below on the Armed Forces board (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=233397)to ask if anyone could identify the uniform, which they have done with relative certainty, as belonging to one of the Hussar regiments.

They thought it would be a good idea to see if any of you gallant photo restorers would like to have a go at colouring it (I think it needs some de-spotting and maybe a bit of sharpening too).

Several posters there have given the following clues:

Blue uniforms with yellow trim.  The loops on chest are yellow but show black due to film at this time. Trousers blue with double yellow stripes.

The white pouch belt across his chest is a white-buff leather, it would be cleaned using white pipe clay, so it is 'white' in colour.

buttons brass, all trim yellow including cuffs, round collar and tunic edges etc . Some Hussars had coloured collars ie ; 3rd had a red collar and the 13th a white one but this looks like the more common blue so i should stick to that in this case.

the "Wrist Lyre" would normally be white metal, and thus silver in colour

I guess the blue of the uniform would be a similar shade to in this drawing: http://www.hussards-photos.com/UK/UK_10_CPA_GalePolden.jpg

Thanks very much and good luck!

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Lancashire / Removal Orders
« on: Friday 18 May 07 17:19 BST (UK)  »
While randomly putting family names into the search engine on the Access to Archives website, it came up with these two entries:

Lancashire Quarter Sessions, Preston, Michaelmas 1826
FILE - Over Darwen to Quick, West Riding, co. York. Order of removal of Henry Wild, Phoebe his wife, and Mary, Henry, John, James, Charles and Phoebe their children - ref.  QSP/2887/61  - date: 1826 4 Aug

Lancashire Quarter Sessions, Preston, Michaelmas 1827
FILE - Over Darwen to Saddleworth, West Riding, co. York. Order of removal of Henry Wild, Phoebe his wife and Mary, Henry, John, James, Charles and Phoebe their children - ref.  QSP/2870/93  - date: 1826 4 Aug

As I understand it removal orders were made to transfer responsibility for a family from one Parish to another.  What's interesting in this case, is that the family seem not to have removed themselves, as they stayed in Darwen through to the start of the 20th century (actually I think some  of  the more distant Wilds are still in Darwen).

I'm puzzled as to why the record would apparently be duplicated, in subsequent years' records - and the actual order is dated the same, just the place they're being removed to changing subtly.  Unless the Parish tried to get rid of them and they didn't go, but used the order made the previous year to try again before the next year's quarter sessions.  ???  Makes it sound like a 19th century ASBO!

Can anyone advise me what the original documents might contain?  Is there more detail and explanation in the original documents that would make it worth getting copies?

If anyone can point me to a website with more information on how such removal orders worked, I'd be really grateful.  I've tried google, but there are so many modern sorts of removal order that they swamp the results.

thanks for your advice!

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Restoration request
« on: Friday 18 May 07 16:57 BST (UK)  »
Any chance of cleaning up, sharpening up and bringing out some of the detail in this picture of the Smith family - my great-great grandparents with their children.  Emily, my great grandmother is back row, far left. 
They fled nailmaking in the Dudley area around 1870, to go to Barrow in Furness, presumably because of the job opportunities offered by the steelworks, but didn't stick at it and moved to Blackpool around 1875, where Henry Smith the father turned his hand to fishmongering.


Thanks very much

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World War Two / Just found my great uncle on CWGC.org: where do I go next?
« on: Thursday 17 May 07 18:00 BST (UK)  »
I found this record on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website earlier today - I knew this man, my great uncle, existed, as I have the "letter" from Buckingham Palace to his mother expressing sympathy in her deep sorrow.  But I didn't know his name or when he was killed, until I found this.

This is the first military record I've wanted to follow up, and I'm not sure the best way to start.

thanks for your input!

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2820506

Name: COLLIS, WILLIAM EDWARD
Initials: W E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Obs.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 57 Sqdn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 20/06/1942
Service No: 930440
Additional information: Son of James William Collis, and of Rosetta Florence Collis. of Ilford Essex.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 2.
Cemetery: HELLENDOORN GENERAL CEMETERY

Data Copyright Commonwealth War Graves Commission

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Armed Forces / Can anyone identify the regiments from the uniforms in this photo?
« on: Thursday 17 May 07 17:17 BST (UK)  »
The photograph was taken during WW1 in Blackpool, Lancashire, probably on Erdington Road or Clarendon Road.

The front row are my family.  I'd be particularly interested in the uniform front row far left, as Great Uncle Joe never had any connection with Scotland that we know about!

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Armed Forces / Can anyone identify this uniform?
« on: Thursday 17 May 07 17:10 BST (UK)  »
He looks like he's in his late teens or early 20s, so I'd say it's probably 1880s.

With the absence of any sort of badges or insignia, it doesn't look military, but I thought somone might know on this forum.

Thanks very much.

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