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Norfolk / Ada Brown born Norwich 1908
« on: Sunday 24 July 16 18:47 BST (UK)  »
I've been returning to some branches of my tree that have remained long dormant now that the 1939 Register and other sources have come online.

I'd appreciate a second look at this particular family in Norwich, as there are some gaps I cannot fill, and they are really intriguing me!

I found my 2nd cousin 3x removed, James Freeman Lines on the 1939 Register at 27 Birkbeck Rd, Norwich. James Freeman Lines was born 19 Jan 1900 in St Ives, Hunts and died Q3 1973 in North Walsham registration district, Norfolk.
There's him, two redacted entries, a son, Philip Lines and what appears to be a lodger.

From the son (dob 5 May 1931), I discovered the mother's maiden name on freebmd: Brown.  That led to two more sons, accounting for the two redacted entries on the 1939 Register. 

I found the marriage of James Freeman Lines to Ada Brown, and familysearch even has the image of the marriage register:

Married 3 Sep 1927 at St Luke's, New Catton, Norwich
James Freeman Lines, 27, Bachelor, Fireman, 97 Appleyard Crescent Norwich, Harry Lines, Butcher
Ada Brown, 20, Spinster, Nurse, 97 Appleyard Crescent Norwich, William Burrett [crossed out; replaced with Charles Brown] deceased, Market Gardener [crossed out; replaced with Soldier]
Married after banns in the presence of George Brown, John William George Sutton

Nothing piques my interest more than the bride changing her mind about who her father was!  :)

Ada Brown proved quite difficult to track down.  I eventually found her on the 1911 census at 7 Romany Road, Norwich. 

She is listed as Aida Brown, the daughter of a widowed Emily Brown.

Emily Brown misunderstood the birthplace column on the 1911 census, and very helpfully put in everybody's dates of birth!

Also in the household are:
  • a son, Philip, born 12/11/1906
  • a boarder in her household called William Burrett, born Fritton, 3 Dec 1855: Aha! The "alternative" father whose name is crossed out on the marriage register.

I can see Philip Brown on the 1939 Register in Norwich with his wife Ivy M Brown née Wakefield (married Q4 1930, Norwich).

But Emily Brown, Ada Lines née Brown are nowhere to be found on the 1939 register.  Obviously I must not ask you to look them up on the 1939 register, as that would break the terms of use.

Can anyone see the death of Ada Lines née Brown?
The 1911 census gives her date of birth as 5 March 1908, but I'm struggling to see her birth on freebmd.  I've even looked for her as Ada Burrett.

(She's not the Ada Elizabeth Lines who died in North Walsham District Q1 1978, as that one was Ada E Boon, married to Percy A Lines Q2 1933. The 1939 Register confirms this.)

Her mother, Emily Brown, born 25 July 1866 on the 1911 census is equally difficult to track down. 
Can anyone see any of her birth, death or marriage records?
I can't find a marriage of an Emily to a Charles Brown in the relevant timeframe.

I wonder if Emily's two children might be illegitimate children of William Burrett, and Charles Brown (shown as Ada's father on the marriage register) is an invention to cover - badly - the illegitimacy?

I've not yet found any baptisms online for either Ada and Philip Brown or the three children of Ada and James Freeman Lines (Roy Q1 1928, Basil Q4 1929, Philip 5 May 1931).

This lot have piqued my curiosity, and it's really irritating me that I can't pin them down any further!

Thanks in advance for any thoughts or additions.

Can anyone make out the occupation for Emily & Mary J Parry on the 1891 census, at 43 Baltic Street, St Lukes, Finsbury, Middlesex?  RG12/233 fol. 123, p. 28

Something confectioner?

I thought initially it said ornamental confectioner, but looking more closely I can't make ornamental out of what's there. It looks like [??]oonmetal confectioner. But that doesn't make much sense to me.

Thanks for any help.

Lancashire / BMD certificate production moving to Lancashire Archives
« on: Tuesday 08 March 16 14:52 GMT (UK)  »
Interesting. Presumably part of the drastic cost cutting that's underway at Lancashire County Council.

Lancashire's Certificates Services is moving to Lancashire Archives later this month (March 2016).

In order to save money, Lancashire County Council is proposing to reduce the opening hours for Lancashire Archives (what used to be called the Lancashire Records Office) on Bow Lane in Preston.

This is a great shame, of course, but I fear they have no option.

But removing the one-day-per-week evening opening, is effectively going to mean I will no longer be able to visit to carry out research (Saturdays are just too difficult personally), and will instead just have to hope that Ancestry digitises more of the collection and puts it online.

These are the existing and the proposed new opening hours

   The Archive Service is currently open for 42.5 hours each week, plus an additional 6 hours on one Saturday each month. The opening times are:
Monday               9.00-5.00
Tuesday              9.00-8.30
Wednesday        9.00-5.00
Thursday            10.00-5.00
Friday                  9.00-5.00

2nd Saturday of each month 10.00-4.00

The Archive Service is proposing to open for 30 hours each week, plus 6 hours on one Saturday each month. The proposed opening times are:
Monday               Archives closed; building open 10.00-4.00 for use of microform and computers only;
Tuesday              9.00-4.30
Wednesday        9.00-4.30
Thursday            9.00-4.30
Friday                  9.00-4.30

2nd Saturday of each month 10.00-4.00
There is a survey on the Lancashire County Council to consult on the proposed changes:

London and Middlesex / Looking for location of photo, Forest Gate late 1950s
« on: Saturday 18 July 15 19:16 BST (UK)  »
I guess that this pair of photos was taken 1958/59/60.

My mum's first job was in Barclay's in Forest Gate and this was the branch she worked in.

I wonder if anyone could identify the modern day location of these photos - clearly the Barclays is a temporary branch (can't imagine a bank made of wood nowadays!), presumably replacing one destroyed by German bombing.

I've had a quick look up and down Romford Rd on Google Maps StreetView, but haven't been able to spot it, but if the building housing the furniture shop next door has since been demolished, it would be hard to spot on Google StreetView!  It's a shame the man's head is right in front of the furniture shop's name.

It's a long shot, I admit, as I'm probably basically hoping someone recognises the furniture shop building.

Cumberland Lookup Requests / Marriage Q3 1922 Haverigg St Lukes
« on: Tuesday 17 March 15 22:12 GMT (UK)  »
If any kind soul happens to be going to the Records Office in Barrow, might they be able to have a quick look at a marriage for me?

It's in the Jul-Sep quarter at Haverigg St Luke's between Richard Noble and Ellen Eccles

The reference on CumbriaBMD is C3/1/155, so I presume it's entry number 155 in the register.

The Cumbria Archives catalogue says there is just one register covering the period 1891-1963, and the microfilm reference no is  JAC 1368/69.

I'm hoping it's the second marriage of Richard Noble, my 2nd cousin 3x removed, which is distant enough not to be worth ordering the certificate.

If someone can look this up, I'll be very grateful.

Many thanks.

FH Documents and Artefacts / Looking for advice re photo mounting corners
« on: Thursday 20 November 14 21:11 GMT (UK)  »
We're going to redo the family album, as the old one (1960s) has become a bit shabby where the weight of 19th century card-mounted photos has become a bit too much for the paper on which they were mounted (some glued, some with mounting corners - no I've no idea why two different methods!).

New albums are fine, but I'm struggling with  sourcing some suitable mounting corners.  I can see quite a few online in differing sizes, and am struggling to see the difference between them all. 

But I'd be really interested if anyone can recommend any mounting corners (available in UK) that can take these thick Victorian photographs - cabinet cards, are they called?  More modern prints from the 20th century are easier: presumably looking at ones called archival quality would be better?

Thanks for any advice.

I've just found gtx5 grandfather in this (new?) recordset on Ancestry.

I presume this is his discharge from Fleet Prison on 22nd July 1830. I knew he was in there on 9th July, as I have a copy of a letter so dated he sent to one of his creditors, the Parish of Fornham St Martin in Suffolk.

Can anyone help me understand what the final column is about, please?

My reading of this is:

1830 July 22 ¦ Charles Guest ¦ ats. Thos Blamire by W[t?] of Plts Atty

I don't think I've come across Thomas Blamire before, and it's a shame (despite the hype of Ancestry's description of the recordset) that there's not the corresponding admissions registers to see if he's one of Charles' creditors (we know from his correspondence that there were several, but they're not identified)

So the questions are
  • what does ats mean, if I've read that correctly?
  • what's wt of Plts atty mean? (writ of Plaintiff's attorney maybe??)

If it does mean writ of plaintiff's attorney, does that mean that the person who put Charles in debtor's prison has relented (or rather accepted 3s 4d in the pound which I know was what Charles was offering)?

Many thanks

1871 census, East Broughton, Lindale, Lancashire. RG10/4238, fol. 86, p.1

Ann Carter, unmarried, age 49, born Cartmel

Occupation says Income from Interest of ???

I think I know what it says, but would like to see some other opinions


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