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Durham Lookup Requests / Look-up in "Pubs of South Shields" by Eileen Burnett for "Admiral Rodney" + map?
« on: Thursday 05 August 21 17:01 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,

Google Books has a partial view of this book that does not include the index pages if there are any. Yet I know that the Admiral Rodney existed in the late 1700's from adverts in the newspapers for sales of ships. At least one of those ads is quoted in Amy C. Flagg's "History of Shipbuilding ...".

Last week, I lucked into a squib in the Newcastle Courant of 3 March 1792 about a runaway horse.

"The animal took fright and galloped with great fury down Pilgrim-Street, and the Butcher Bank, turned up the Side, and into the entry of the Admiral Rodney, where he struck his head with such violence against the top of the passage, that he was killed on the spot."

One of my ancestors owned the pub around then and I would love to be told
 a) if any info in that book and
 b) of a map that would locate it for me

Can anyone here help?

Cheers,
Westoe

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London and Middlesex / Re: University Street, London - Is it now the A501?
« on: Wednesday 28 July 21 01:52 BST (UK)  »
Hurrah! and Despair!

Hurrah! because the death certificate arrived today, and yes, without any doubt, this is our lass.

Despair! because there are still so many questions.

She died at 11 Drummond Street which seems to be in the same area as where she was enumerated in the 1871 Census.

There was an inquest on 30 January, 1879 conducted by William Hardwicke, the coroner for Middlesex at which her death "From Shock and Collapse from burns on body from Clothes taking Fire" was adjudged "Accidental". Ouch!!! What a horribly painful way to die.

Now what? I've searched for Coroners' Reports in archives and the newspapers at FindMyPast using every combination of search terms I can come up with, but no joy.

Has anyone any idea of where she could have been buried? She was widowed and alone and poor, living far from home (South Shields). That suggests an unmarked pauper's grave, doesn't it? But aren't there any records?

Cheers,
Westoe

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London and Middlesex / Re: University Street, London - Is it now the A501?
« on: Friday 04 June 21 13:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Gadget, for these replies.

This morning everything has come crashing down again. There are emails from GRO saying they cannot process my order due to a technical glitch and from WorldPay refunding my payment to the credit card. This lass is still leading me a merry dance. And... thanks to our blankety-blank!!! "Amber Alert" system (which no one's phone can opt out of) , , I'm too sleep-deprived this morning to even figure out what to do next

Westoe

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London and Middlesex / Re: University Street, London - Is it now the A501?
« on: Friday 04 June 21 02:13 BST (UK)  »
Aaah, Ruskie, that's lovely. Thank you.

From that older map, I now conclude that my Shields lass must have died in University College Hospital as her death notice in the Shields Gazette says "At University Street, London, suddenly, on the 25th ult."

and...

From "The Dictionary of Victorian London" I find that the UCH offered "gratuitous relief of poor sick or maimed persons, both as In- and Out-patients" with "Three hundred and three beds available".

Very poor and alone, she was indeed - husband, sons, parents and siblings gone, so I think that very likely. I have sent for her death certificate though I doubt there will be any valuable genealogical information on it if it was filled out by the hospital. Still, I am over the moon to have finally found her.

Thank you.

Cheers,
Westoe

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London and Middlesex / Re: University Street, London - Is it now the A501?
« on: Thursday 03 June 21 20:10 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, KGarrad. I have found it now.

Cheers,
Westoe

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London and Middlesex / University Street, London - Is it now the A501?
« on: Thursday 03 June 21 15:09 BST (UK)  »
I'm going dizzy trying to find this street on Google Maps - craning my head from side-to-side and up-and-down to read the street names in the view that comes up when I search for it. I've found a death for a relative in 1879 there and I want to pin it down as she was on Frederick Street in Finsbury in the 1871 census.

Cheers,
Westoe

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Armed Forces / Re: Napoleonic Wars - Danish prize ship NICHOLETTE JOHANNA taken by HMS NEMESIS 1809
« on: Thursday 20 May 21 01:41 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for this Bookbox. No wonder I wasn't getting anywhere with this one. For her double-barrelled name I had different spellings for both.

Cheers,
Westoe

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Armed Forces / Napoleonic Wars - Danish prize ship NICHOLETTE JOHANNA taken by HMS NEMESIS 1809
« on: Wednesday 19 May 21 20:46 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,

HMS NEMESIS took 3 Danish prizes in 1809.

12 July 1809 she captured DODRE and FORSOGET and I can find information on their disposal.

But on the NICHOLETTE JOHANNA, taken 17 April 1809, I can find no subsequent information. Googling that name just brings up multiple copies of the same Wikipaedia article in different languages.

I believe a relative was a member of the prize crew put aboard her.

Can anyone here please point me to sources for further information on her?

Cheers,
Westoe

EDIT: P.S. I do already have The Gazette notices about the Admiralty sales of these prizes and the prize money payouts from 1810 and 1830 (yes, the wheels of bureaucracy do turn slowly, don't they?).

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Kent / Re: George Barnett 1867 (kent)
« on: Thursday 01 April 21 01:06 BST (UK)  »
Hello again,

Another angle I forgot to mention this morning is the newspapers. I found quite a bit there about one of my coastguard rellies. Coastguardmen were sometimes called as witnesses at inquests and  at BoT (Board of Trade) inquiries into ship losses.

A subscription to FindMyPast includes access to the BNA (British Newspaper Archive) but you can also get a short term subscription to just it.
Here's the link:
https//www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/account/subscribe

To determine whether such a subscription would be useful or no, you can search it first. All you'll get are the thumbnails and they will have a lot of OCR (Optical Character Recognition) gobbledy-gook in them, but also enough clear wording to give you an idea of whether that hit is going to be a probable.

Cheers,
Westoe

EDIT:
In searching those newspapers you'll find a lot of entries that are "George COMMA Barnett". Those refer to a vessel named GEORGE captained by a master named Barnett.

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