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Family History Beginners Board / Re: London to Baltic sailing times
« on: Tuesday 14 February 23 04:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Syd R,

A pity that Brown is such a common surname. I'm sure that you'll be able to find him in the Danish Soundtolls Registers, but you'll have to trawl through a lot of entries and ship names are not included.

I posted a lengthy explanation of this source 7 years ago in another thread.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=674215.10

Have a read there and then maybe come back with a specific date and his forename?

Cheers,
Westoe

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Master Mariners in South Shields
« on: Tuesday 24 January 23 18:17 GMT (UK)  »
P.S. On that website to which I referred you there is an 1895 mention of "George Weakner Robinson", Certificate Number 60,216,  Master of MALING of West Hartlepool, Official Number 102724, screw steamer, built 1895 West Hartlepool.

Possibly a grandson of your man???

Cheers,
Westoe

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Master Mariners in South Shields
« on: Tuesday 24 January 23 17:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again Bvc,

Further to your post about Weakner carrying timber from Canada.

1) Wooden ships used a lot of timber and many years of war with the French had destroyed a lot of ships. Trees take decades to reach the sizes needed in shipbuilding. Britain also imported thousands of shiploads of timber from the Baltic.

2) How old was Weakner's then vessel? You can find that sort of information in the annual registers
of Lloyd's Register of Ships free online here:

https://hec.lrfoundation.org.uk/archive-library/lloyds-register-of-ships-online

The timber trade was often last step on the line for old, worn-out, broken-down vessels that in many cases literally "floated on their cargo" and a stupendous number of them went down. So many that a special Parliamentary Commission was set up to look into Timber Ships.

Cheers,
Westoe

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Master Mariners in South Shields
« on: Tuesday 24 January 23 17:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Bvc,

That volume "Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships" has 2 very good indices at the back: one for masters and seamen, one for owners and shareholders. The numbers beside each name reference the proper entry number in the text.

Vessels were owned by 64 shares, divided any number of ways. A person or group of persons, could own as little as 1 share, so a vessel could potentially be owned by over a hundred people. It was an investment, albeit risky, available to persons of modest means.

But please be aware that the dictionary covers vessels *only while they were registered on the Tyne* and your mariners could also very well have served on vessels registered to other ports.

The John Dickinson, butcher, mentioned a few posts ago by River Tyne Lass was never a mariner, but he was a close friend and near relation to Enoch D Thompson who was a shipowner. [Aside: one of Dickinson's sons married one of Thompson's granddaughters and later became mayor of Jarrow.]

Cheers,
Westoe

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Fife / Re: Is John Pringle a brick wall?
« on: Monday 31 October 22 18:46 GMT (UK)  »
Well ..... erm ... family history is about more than names and dates. It's also about life experiences; where he travelled, what his work experience was etc.etc.

Anyway, perhaps the newspaper suggestion is premature, because there were, no doubt, multiple vessels of that name in this period. I've got a bit more on the specific one to which I posted a link in the last post.

That BALTIC MERCHANT was registered in London in 1811 and probably a few years beyond that, but from 1819 until her loss in 1842, she was registered on the River Tyne as per the reference book "Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships" by Richard Keys. In 1835 she was in the timber trade, mostly to Canada.

Cheers,
Westoe

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Fife / Re: Is John Pringle a brick wall?
« on: Monday 31 October 22 17:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again, Nennefer,

ShaunJ has just given you the 1835 record I referred to earlier and there-you-go!!! another piece of information. He was aboard the vessel BALTIC MERCHANT which was, quite probably, registered at London.

With a vessel name and a date, I suggest that you try the old newspapers now.

Cheers,
Westoe


EDIT:
This could be the one:
http://www.teesbuiltships.co.uk/view.php?a1PageSize=5&year_built=&builder=&a1Order=Sorter_ship_list_bld_ref&a1Dir=DESC&a1Page=5&ref=171416&vessel=BALTIC+MERCHANT

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Snippet of a seaman’s ticket
« on: Saturday 29 October 22 17:17 BST (UK)  »
There is a free online index to UK port numbers at;
http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/ukportnos.html

Do you have FindMyPast? I no longer do, so can't look for you, but they have what is, in essence, an 1835 Census of Seamen in their mariner records. If your man was at sea at this time, it will give you the name of his then-current ship.

Cheers,
Westoe

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The Common Room / Re: Merchant Navy 1849 Ticket Record question
« on: Tuesday 22 March 22 21:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hello fixit9660,

Here is the link to a key for UK port numbers:
http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/ukportnos.html

Liverpool's port number was 62.

Cheers,
Westoe

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Durham Lookup Requests / Re: Gateshead St. Mary Burial - 26 October 1762 - Ann D*******y
« on: Sunday 02 January 22 17:18 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you River Tyne Lass. I will look these up when I get home.

Cheers,
Westoe

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