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You have to be careful - generally a 12/12 match would indicate a shared paternal ancestor maybe 20 generations ago, or could be a random match, but the person matching 12/12 may have only taken a 12 marker test, and could be a match at 25, 37 and 67 markers. The same could apply to 25 and 37 marker tests.   To be honest, I've never seen the point of taking a 12 marker test, but (as you're finding) most people's knowledge of DNA testing only increases after they have taken a test 

It's rather like owning a lottery ticket, but with more numbers on it, and getting prizes with matches you make with others.

You get a small prize for a 12 match, but some people have only 12 numbers on their tickets, and you may have got a bigger prize if they'd had more numbers on their ticket.  Obviously, only by owning a ticket with the most numbers on it can you stand a chance of winning the jackpot with a 67/67 match.


With my own DNA test, I did a 25 marker DNA test, with the intention of upgrading to 37 or 67, should a 25 marker match come along.   I've had loads of 12/12 matches, but if you live in Europe you will share 12/12 matches with people in most places.  No luck on any 25 matches, though.

Your 25 marker matches at no steps means that you share a common male ancestor with these people, and 25 markers at 1 step means that they are a probable match.  The fact that they do not share the same name would most probably be explained by illegitimacy somewhere down the line, but that does not mean that they are any less an ancestor, but it does make the genealogy very tricky 

I've just added another note on my original post

Interestingly, when I worked as a midwife, we occasionally had stillbirths and one time there was an Asian (possibly Pakistani) doctor on duty at the time and he told the mother she shouldn't be upset as she could always have more children.  We were horrified and he was disciplined but said that child deaths were common in his country and women just got on with it.   I guess with a male attitude like that around them, they would have had to grieve silently.

There wasn't much compassion around in the medical profession.  My mother had a premature child during an air raid in the 1940's.  She was rushed to hospital, but the baby only lived one hour.  She was put into a bed in the maternity unit to 'recover' among all the women and their healthy babies.  Such compassion in those days 

Americas ?  Gawd 'elp us ! 

Maybe someone in the UK could could call their offspring UKAS ?   

Quote from: Nick29 on Wednesday 12 December 12 12:40 GMT (UK)

Maybe you should start looking at alternative ways to keep in touch, for when FB start charging people to be members ?

"It's free and always will be." http://www.facebook.com/

That's what Mark Zuckerberg currently says.  He owns 24% of Facebook.  If he sold his shares to Microsoft (making them the majority shareholder), would he really care ?  Microsoft have already shown keen interest in a bigger investment in FB.  Zuckerberg's 24% is said to be worth $24 BILLON - would he really care about promises made earlier ?  Or would he just walk, and enjoy his money ?  People change when they get wealthy.