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Witnesses are, Clara's father T E Johnston and William Usher
St John's church.

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Frederick Henry Sparke born and baptised in Devon, England  1833.

1. He immigrated to Australia, it is believed he arrived in Melbourne, Vic at the end of 1854 on the ship "Walter"  a single man. I cannot find a record.

He married 1856 in Heidelberg to Clara Maria Johnston, he was aged 24 and she was 17, usual residence for both was Greensborough, his occupation listed as "School Master"

After their marriage they moved to Templestowe, where he was supposedly a teacher at Templestowe School no 624.
2.  would there be a record to clarify this and if so how long he was there.

I have records from 1863 stating Frederick is working for the Templestowe Roads Board, first as a Clerk, then a Surveyor.

On 23 Sep 1870 there is a notice in the Argus Newspaper,  - Frederick, the holder of a publican's licence for the house and premises known as the Templesowe Hotel, Templestowe, applies to The Heidelberg Court of Petty Sessions,  sitting on the 28 day of Feb, to transfer the said licence to John Gorman of Heidelberg.
When and how long he was at the Hotel I don't know?

He is making a move to Marysville to become teacher at the new school there, he answered their advertisement and was appointed on 24 Oct 1870.

If someone can help me with the earlier records 1 and 2, it would be greatly appreciated.


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Australia / Re: Immigrants - Thomas Elliott Johnston/Johnson and Harriet Coote
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 10:22 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Sue I agree
Judy

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Australia / Re: Immigrants - Thomas Elliott Johnston/Johnson and Harriet Coote
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 09:42 GMT (UK)  »
Cass,Neale and Sue, thank you for your replies,  I do have the written passenger list that you posted Sue, however to me it didn't seem right, not all of the children are there? nor are the children's ages correct, so, I am a little confused. 
I have the info on Thomas Elliot thank you Sue for your offer.
Maybe I have to get back to the drawing board.
Judy






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Australia / Immigrants - Thomas Elliott Johnston/Johnson and Harriet Coote
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 01:59 GMT (UK)  »
The above are my 3rd gr Grandparents. Thomas b: 1819 in Dublin, Ireland and Harriet b: 1816 Dublin, married in Dublin.
They had seven  children born in Dublin between 1840 and 1850.
Two children born in Victoria, Australia 1854 and 1857.
I am trying to find out when they came to Melbourne, Vic. The whole family came, I have the Australian records of their deaths and marriages etc, and on Harriet's Vic death certificate she names all of the children
 
The children are Clara Maria b 1840, (my 2nd g Grandmother) Harriet  Coote 1841, John Douglas 1843, Mary Elizabeth 1845, Thomas Frederick 1846, Annie Evelyn 1848, Charles 1850 (all born in Dublin) William 1854 and Stella 1850 born in Aust

So by my reckoning they must have immigrated between 1850 and 1853.Can anyone help me with the immigration record please.

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Australia / Re: Help please
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 06:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks JM for your interest, family history gets so hard sometimes. We have no Lodge connections,
Judy

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Australia / Re: Help please
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 06:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Sue and others  for your time, much appreciated
Judy

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Australia / Re: Help please
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 06:16 BST (UK)  »
Yes Sue I agree that there would have been a family arrangement with the Hill and Church families re Arthur Claude, the records prove that is most likely the case.

However, There is no Hill, Church connection with the Leslie family, this seems to have come out of left field.

I don't place much fact out of family stories that are passed down, but  there is only one I keep thinking about and that was given to me by a Leslie member.
She told me that Annie Leslie was hired as a Domestic worker at a home, the twins were there and she fell in love with Stanley and wanted to take him, she was told they would not separate them so Annie took them both.

I also found Annie Leslie  on the 1909 Electoral Roll at 177 Madeline Street, Carlton, on her own, her husband worked away often. That seems a bit of a coincidence to me after hearing that story from the family member, it places her in the area,

Judy

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Australia / Re: Help please
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 05:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you I will look at Find and Connect.

Sue John Hill and Alice separated not long after they took Arthur Claude, they moved from the St James area to the Melbourne suburbs and loved separately, his wife Alice raised Arthur Claude and John worked on the Cable cars in the suburbs.

John Hill is also  the biological father of the twins, (DNA proved) Whether he and Helena spent time together before or during the pregnancy is not known, but the warrant you mention was taken out just 17 days after the twins were born,  (so it was not about Arthur Claude) he then left Vic and went to the Northern Territory.

It seems maybe the wards of state are my next options and the state records office requires a personal visit.

Judy


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