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In my grandfather's army records (Boer war) his next of kin are his siblings (both parents having died in the 1880's) and one of them named Matthew is stated as being an elder brother....he never appeared in the 1881 census with the rest of the family but a Matthew Bryant does appear in the 1901 and 1911 census and this is he.....

Does anyone have the resources to tell me who this individual's father is by the marriage listed below or by his christianing if indeed he was christianed?

1901 census
30 Date Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London
Matthew Bryant......head...27....wood chopper.....Peckham
Jane.............".........wife.....25...............................Walworth
Emily............".........daur......3......................................."
Mary.............".........daur......2......................................."
Ann...............".........daur.....11 months........................."
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1896
Dec qtr 1896, St Saviour R.D
Matthew Bryant married Jane Davy
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1873
Mar qtr 1873, Camberwell R.D
Matthew Bryant was born
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1888
Matthew (my great grandfather) dies aged 46 according to the GRO within the registration district of Camberwell…, June qtr of 1888, vol 1D, page 436   I haven't got the death cert so I'm unaware of what he died of.
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1883
26th May 1883.
Eliza Bryant (mother) dies at the age of 39 at home at 6 Green Hundred Road, Peckham. The death cert states her age as being 39 and her husband as being Matthew Bryant a labourer at the gas works, he was in attendance at the time of death. The cause of death was ? pulmonalis.
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Thomas aged 3 (below) being my grandfather

1881 census
6 Green Hundred Road, Peckham, Surrey
Matthew Bryant......head........39............gas labourer...........Peckham, Surrey
Eliza.......   "..............wife..........36...........................................Highgate, Middlesex
Edward...   "..............son..........15...lab....................................Peckham, Surrey
William...   "..............son..........13...............................................Peckham, Surrey
Eliza.......   "..............daur.........11.............................................Peckham, Surrey
Martha....   ".............."..............9................................................Peckham, Surrey
Emma.....   "...............".............6...............................................Peckham, Surrey
Thomas..."................son..........3..............................................Peckham, Surrey
James.....   "..............."...............10 months...............................Peckham, Surrey
John Bryant...........brother......41 (widr)    bricklayers lab.........Peckham, Surrey
Daniel.....   ".............nephew...15..............................................Peckham, Surrey
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*Thomas & his brother James landed up in St Marys orphanage in 1891

Bryant

I haven't a clue how good German records are so my question is

Is there any site of these families (Westpfel's and Amund/Amend) in Germany pre 1881?......births, marriages etc

1901 census
21, Dacca Street, St Nicholas Deptford, Greenwich, London
Fred Westpfel..........Head..........46................Labourer General.......................Germany (F S)   
Eliza........."..............Wife...........44...................Housewife................................Germany (F S) 
Otto..........."...............Son............20...............Labourer General........................Deptford, London   
Charlie......"...............Son............18...............Labourer General.........................Deptford, London   
Willie........"...............Son............14..................School.......................................Deptford, London   
Maud........"..............Daughter.....11..................School.......................................Deptford, London 
Nellie........".............Daughter......6....................School.......................................Deptford, London   
Rose.........".............Daughter......2....................School.......................................Deptford, London   
Ethel.........".............Daughter......3 months.........................................................Deptford, London   
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1891 census
12, Dacco Street, St Nicholas, Deptford, Greenwich, London
Fredk Westpfel.........Head..........34.................General Laborer.........................Germany   
Elizabeth....".............Wife...........32....................................................................Germany 
Nuna Amend....Mother In Law.....64..Widow.......................................................Germany 
Otto Westphel...........Son............10.....................................................................Deptford, London   
Chas...........".............Son..............8.....................................................................Deptford, London   
Gerty..........."...........Daughter.......6.....................................................................Deptford, London   
Willm.........."............Son...............4.....................................................................Rotherhithe, London   
Maud.........."............Daughter........1....................................................................Deptford, London 
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1881 census
30, Berthorn St, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London
John Amend.............Head..............54...................Labourer.................................British Subject, Germany   
Ann G.....".................Wife...............33...................................................................British Subject, Germany   
Frederich Westfell...Son In Law.....26...................Labourer.................................British Subject, Germany   
Elizabeth......".........Daughter.........23...................................................................British Subject, Germany   
Otto F............"..........Grandson.........0 months......................................................Deptford, Kent   
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29th Feb 1880 (must have been leap year!)
St Mary Magdalen, Bermonsey

Frederick Westfel full age bachelor, tallow merchant, 5 Nelson Street, father Charles Westfel, Miller
Elizabeth Amend, full age, spinster, 1 St George Place, father John Amend, tallow merchant
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Thanks
Bryant

Something I never knew (plenty of that around)

Age of marriage act of 1929
Minimum age of marriage raised to 16.....prior to the act of 1929 you could marry at the age of 12 if you were female and 14 if you were male although in practice marrying at these sort of ages rarely happened!

Bryant

Hello all

I'm hoping their is a Stock family member in Swansea thats into family history? so
Is their anyone out there who knows a bit about the Stock families from Swansea

David Stock born 1860, died 1942 Swansea
wife
Elizabeth Eliza Jane Stock (nee Robbins) born 1862 Weymouth, died 1927 Swansea
they had 14 children, 12 still living in the 1911 census

Thanks
Bryant 

Looking for the parents and family of Thomas Fachnan Kielly (Kiely) born 14th Aug 1911 Skibbereen R.D (Cork, Ireland)....Thomas died Havering, Essex in 1972

1939 Romford R.D, Essex
Thomas married Kathleen Gertrude Fitzgerald born I believe 6th July 1913 Youghal R.D (Cork, Ireland)....Kathleen died 1983 Havering, Essex...if anyone can also tell me who her parents and family are?

Thanks
Bryant