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Roxburghshire / Re: Mystery Photo - near Hawick??
« on: Tuesday 22 July 08 23:09 BST (UK)  »
Oh, this has really muddied the waters!

I forgot when posting that there was a Borthwick N of Falahill.

I'm still convinced that what my second cousin suggested: that it was the Borthwick Valley near Hawick has more than a ring of truth in it.

Circumstantial evidence, ie our common Tweedie ancestor living near Roberton, and the photo being in a bundle of Tweedie photos of Wilton Dean (Hawick) I think points towards the Roxburghshire Borthwick.

It's all the more galling since I know the area quite well - or at least thought I did - I was a milkboy on the country run round the Borthwick, Harden and Branxholm area with the Co-op van in the 60s!

Thanks for your trouble in helping track this elusive location.

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Dumfriesshire / Langholm Kirk Session records ~ where are they?
« on: Sunday 18 May 08 18:57 BST (UK)  »
The following letter appeared in last week’s “Eskdale and Liddesdale Advertiser” and I waited to see if there was any reply to it in the current issue on 15/05/2008.

Since there hasn’t been, I have asked the permission to reproduce it below in the hope that someone, as the writer says, “can shed light on this mystery.”

At the Archive Centre in Langholm, we have had many enquiries which could have perhaps been solved through reference to these Kirk Session records.  All the more galling since we have been told that they were in existence around 40 years ago.

Walter

http://wwwlangholmarchivecentre.org.uk


WHERE ARE THE OLD KIRK SESSION RECORDS HIDING? 
 
Does anyone know what has happened to the Langholm's kirk session records for the 19th century? 
 
Other people must be in my position where, in researching family history, I discover that these records are missing or even lost. 
 
They are not to be found in the records kept in General Register House in Edinburgh. Those records which do exist there are wrongly classified as Kirk Session records but are, in fact, for Langholm Presbytery and date from the late 18th century to the middle of the 19th. 
 
There is no sign of kirk session records for that period for any of the presbyterian churches in Langholm, as far as I can ascertain. 
 
Nor do they appear to be held by the churches themselves in Langholm. 
 
I have heard an alarming suggestion that they were found in someone's loft in Langholm some years ago and thrown out and I hope that story is untrue. 
 
I'd be grateful to anyone who can shed light on this mystery. 


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Dumfriesshire / Re: Location of Torcoon, Canonbie
« on: Monday 21 April 08 16:05 BST (UK)  »
There's this memorial in Wauchope Churchyard which mentions Torcoon (sic):

In memory of JOHN SLACK, Tenant in Peterburn, who died 13th July 1853 aged 66 years  Also ELIZABETH SCOTT his wife who died at Hagg 10th May 1875 aged 76 years  Also ELIZA their daughter who died 16th June 1861 aged 36 years  Also JANE their daughter who died at Turcoon 11th September 1889 aged 61 years   And of their Grand-children MARGARET daughter of George Slack and Giles Aitchison who died at Cronksbank 30th March 1860 aged 11 months  JOHN their son died 21st December 1860 aged 5 years  ANDREW their son died 11th January 1861 aged 7 years  ELIZABETH their daughter died 18th January 1861 aged 9 years  JANE their daughter died 24th May 1877 aged 10 years  Also the said GILES AITCHISON his wife who died 29th September 1881 aged 58 years  Also the above GEORGE SLACK who died 13th January 1894 aged 73 years  Also ROBERT SLACK son of the above John Slack and Elizabeth Scott who died at Cronksbank 29th April 1908 aged 76 years

Cheers

Bruce

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Richardson/Tweedie
« on: Sunday 20 April 08 13:13 BST (UK)  »
I've a Janet (Jane) Richardson b ca 1797 Lochmaben, d 28 April 1872 Ecclefechan

she married Robert McCartney 28 Jan 1825 in Lochmaben.

her parents: David Richardson and Helen Kennedy about whom I've no information.

And, perhaps spurious as they are a few miles from High Tae/Lochmaben, I've also got a
John Richardson, b 8 April 1876 12 Burns Street Dumfries - shoemaker
his parents: Wm Richardson d 23 Feb 1838 and mother Sarah Kerr

and probably a complete red herring, I've also got Tweedies, mainly from around Hawick, but a Lawrence Tweedie in the 1851 census at Moffat

Bruce

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Caulfieldhill?
« on: Sunday 20 January 08 10:00 GMT (UK)  »
There's this in Wauchope Churchyard, outside Langholm:

… In memory of JANET MOFFAT daughter of George Moffat and Agnes Clark who died at Caulfield 15th May 1860 aged 2 years …

I'd assume that was the Caulfield up on the hill opposite the cemetery, and not really in the Canonbie area.

I wonder if it could be around Caulside, on the Canonbie - Newcastleton Road, just before the old county boundary, that's certainly nearer Thorniewhats.

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Dumfriesshire / Langholm Archive Centre search engine update
« on: Friday 30 November 07 16:04 GMT (UK)  »
The researchers compiling a complete index to the Eskdale and Liddesdale Advertiser have recently completed the first twenty one years of publication, ie from March 1848 to March 1869.

1869 brought the first time that the E&L was published weekly and this of course means a lot of extra work for the team.  However two recent additons to the research team means that work goes on at a good speed. The E&L index is still available online and can be found at http://langholmarchive.org.uk.  We have had very positive feedback and several success stories.
 
All this work takes money to sustain it and run the Centre and so the group are holding an exhibition of photographs and a short concert featuring local artistes in the Buccleuch Centre, Langholm, on 12 December 2007 to help raise funds for the project.  Visitors are welcome to come along and see what the Centre is doing.

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Roxburghshire / Mystery Photo - near Hawick??
« on: Friday 14 September 07 10:08 BST (UK)  »
I've been in contact with a Tweedie descendant who ancestors in common with me.  She asked if I could identify the attached photo, saying that it was "up the Borthwick" where the Tweedies lived. The photo was in an album of her ancestors' photos of Wilton Dean area in Hawick.

Chisholm Lodge was in 1861 the residence of this branch Tweedies, if that's a help.

This photo was obviously taken recently as there are electric poles.

Can anyone help?  I've been up and down the Borthwick Valley, but can't place this photograph at all.

Many thanks.

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Warwickshire / Wolves surname in Budbrooke
« on: Wednesday 22 August 07 22:34 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone suggest where I might go to find out more about a Samuel Wolves, born Budbrooke, Warwickshire?  The IGI gives his date of birth as June 2, 1765. Parents, Daniel and Hannah.

My 3 x g-grandfather was Samuel Wolves; he was buried Jan 7, 1832 in Wauchope Churchyard, Langholm, Dumfriesshire, age 69, so the birth date for the Warwickshire Samuel is only a couple of years out.

I have searched Scottish Records high and low for any information about "my" Samuel Wolves and drawn a blank, all I've found is that his daughter Mary Ann Wolves was born Musselburgh {Edinburgh} in 1803.

Could the Warwickshire Samuel and mine be the same?   (Certainly Daniel and Hannah don't appear amongst any of my ancestors.)

"My" Samuel Wolves was (in 1823) Sheriff Officer in Langholm, and on his death in 1832 was Baron Baillie to the Duke of Buccleuch.  This would seem to suggest a legal background - his name appears on several court reports.

But Warwickshire to Edinburgh to Langholm, Dumfriesshire in the late 1700s?  It seems highly improbable, … but … … !

I'd be delighted for suggestions - Wolves is such an unusual name.

Thank you for any leads.

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Dumfriesshire / Eskdale & Liddesdale Advertiser search site
« on: Monday 16 July 07 22:06 BST (UK)  »
Langholm Archive Centre (see www.langholmarchivecentre.org.uk) have just gone "live" with a search engine of their records from the Langholm local paper, "The Eskdale and Liddesdale Advertiser".

The engine is available at

http://www.langholmarchive.org.uk/

Instructions are on the site on how use to search.

The site has been tested for a few weeks: but there may still be the occasional "wobbly"!

Feedback would be very welcome.

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