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New Zealand / Re: Lookup request - STREAT family on the Wellington COMPLETED
« on: Sunday 12 March 23 21:58 GMT (UK)  »
Additional info for Francis Spooner KING (in case you do not have ? ) ...

Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms :

KING - Francis
Born 1854 - ? October      /   Baptised:  ?  January 1871
Parents :    (Father)  Francis   Edgar KING  -  (Mother)   Elizabeth ESCOTT

Church :  Our Lady of the Rosary, Marylebone, Westminster, London, Middlesex, ENG.
[source:  FindMyPast ]

   ~  Lu

        *  *  *     C O R R E C T I O N      *  *  *

Above was originally posted at Reply #  35

Father's name was of course Edgar    :

      ~   Lu


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New Zealand / Re: Now let's find the emigration evidence for Francis King-Spooner!
« on: Saturday 11 March 23 23:24 GMT (UK)  »
Edgar KING >   "Jamaica Sarsaparilla"
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18820215.2.13

... The expanded theory of two acids ...

       ~   Lu

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New Zealand / Re: confirmation of the burial of H. E. Pellett
« on: Saturday 11 March 23 09:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for all the information. The only thing I am trying understand is it says Edwin died aged 82, which would mean he was 42 in 1880 (born 1838). But he was suppose to be born in 1861?    Did they just get his age wrong when he died?

As previously given ...

Hi Ashley

The 1861 birth at Wiltshire, ENG which I mentioned previously, may well be the one ???

Baptism at Salisbury, St Edmunds, Wiltshire :

Henry Edwin PALLETT*

born 11 October 1861 - baptised 1 November 1861

s/o Edwin PALLETT (cabinetmaker) and Emily PALLETT

   ~  Lu

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New Zealand / Re: confirmation of the burial of H. E. Pellett
« on: Friday 10 March 23 03:32 GMT (UK)  »
Edwin PELLETT - died Canterbury - 13 October 1920 - 82 yrs
Emily Sarah PELLETT his wife - d. same - 5 September 1926 - 90 years
buried at Sydenham Cemetery, Christchurch.
Seems there is a headstone but this does not acknowledge other family members (e.g. a son who might have died in 1880.)

Meant to mention in earlier post, that I was not able to find H.E. PELLETT (or variants) bc 1861 on UK census returns after 1871.

   ~  Lu

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New Zealand / Re: confirmation of the burial of H. E. Pellett
« on: Friday 10 March 23 03:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ashley

The 1861 birth at Wiltshire, ENG which I mentioned previously, may well be the one ???

Baptism at Salisbury, St Edmunds, Wiltshire :
Henry Edwin PALLETT*
born 11 October 1861 - baptised 1 Novemeber 1861
s/o Edwin PALLETT (cabinetmaker) and Emily PALLETT

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1871 - at Wiltshire > St. Thomas

Shown as POLLETT  - but image very clearly shows "PELLETT"
Edwin - 32 - cabinetmaker and upholsterer
Emily 35
Henry - 10 - son
Eliza - 7 - dau
Laura - 4 dau

Part of this PELLETT family came to NZ :

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TS18920507.2.8
Laura PELLETT maried Joseph William SHIELDS in 1892 at her parents' residence.

Their first-born son (1893) was named "Henry Edwin" SHIELDS (do wonder then if this was after her "deceased" brother.    Eliza, the sister of Henry Edwin and Laura, had also apparently died in 1893 (ENG ?)

I wouldn't worry too much about "EDWIN v. EDWARD"  ... the two names are often confused.

So this Wiltshire, Henry Edwin PELLETT "marries up" quite well with the info found to date.

- On passenger list = H.E. PALLETT   
- Edward PELLETT - 18 years in  1880 - (bc 1862)  [Henry Edwin PELLETT - born October 1861]
- A later connection to NZ for parents Edwin and Emily PELLETT and daughter Laura (Laura's first son named "Henry Edwin".)

   ~  Lu


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New Zealand / Re: confirmation of the burial of H. E. Pellett
« on: Friday 10 March 23 02:11 GMT (UK)  »
From my best efforts I managed to find an Edward Pellett, buried at Barbadoes Street Cemetery in Christchurch, who had died in March 1880 aged about 18.

Do you think these 2 men are the same person?

Hi Ashley

Well, they could be the same person ... but no apparent death notice and the Barbadoes Street cemetery record seems like it could be a "paupers grave" ?

This H.E. PELLETT (var. spelled) was "young" and a "compositor" by trade ... but he's hard to identify by occupation if he left England before the 1881 census.   [There are a couple of birth possibilities - maybe Wiltshire c. 1861 or  ... ??? ]

Archives New Zealand appear only to hold records of Pleiades voyages for 1870's and one in 1883.

You could try Christchurch Libraries - their B,M and D, card indexes for local churches (which I've mentioned to you before I think ?).    They may well have (further) information for the burial (in pauper's plot ?) at Barbadoes Street cemetery ?    Worth a try.

     ~  Lu

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Re:   New Zealand Passenger Lists - some info ...

*     In the main, the early passenger lists available for New Zealand, give particulars for persons who arrived in the Colony as part of various immigration schemes arranged by the Governments of a number of provinces (e.g. Auckland / Wellington / Canterbury / Otago / etc. etc. ). 
     
*     There are very limited passenger lists available for persons who arrived independently - i.e. those who paid their own passages to NZ  ... or those who didn't qualify under the immigration criteria of the time, and who may have had fares paid by relatives/friends already living in NZ.

*      Bear in mind that - not all persons arriving in New Zealand will necessarily be recorded on a passenger list ... - or that an (official) passenger list can be found for the ship they were said to have arrived on.   

*      People generally travelled "freely", (without restriction), between Australia and New Zealand  (and vice versa).     Some passenger lists are available for travel from several Australian states (depending on the era).   Be aware that steerage passengers were often not specifically named on lists ... and that persons who had firstly been emigrants to Australia were not regarded by NZ Immigration authorities as immigrants to this country - i.e. they we not subjected to the rules and regulations applicable to immigrants.

*      Where passenger lists to NZ cannot be found, searching newspapers at PapersPast website might prove fruitful.     paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

*      Consider too, that your "missing person" may have firstly arrived in Australia.

    ~  Lu




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New Zealand / Re: Now let's find the emigration evidence for Francis King-Spooner!
« on: Thursday 09 March 23 23:59 GMT (UK)  »
for jbml ... Francis KING to New Zealand.

Information in support of Francis KING (formerly SPOONER) having married in NZ in 1880.  >
*    Have now found a printout copy of the marriage of "Francis KING - Elizabeth GILBERT" attached to a family tree.  They wed at the Office of the Registrar of Marriages at Auckland on 3 March 1880.

*    Deaths of Two Brothers   >https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19510828.2.40
re:  Frank Edgar KING and Arthur Ernest KING  :
Link to WW1 NZ Army file for Arthur Ernest KING >
https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE19299567
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Noting that the birhs of these two in 1882 and 1886 listed their parents as (simply) "Elizabeth and Francis KING".   However the WW1 file for Arthur Ernest KING clearly shows (on attestation paper dated 1917), that his father was Francis Spooner KING - born England - and that his father has been in NZ for 40 years*.   

*   Obviously that "length of time in NZ" may not be strictly correct ... but it does give you another approximate timeframe (c. 1877) in which to look for the NZ arrival of Francis Spooner KING.

   ~  Lu


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