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 :) Yes, Goldie, and still having fun. This morning I have fallen over "The Secretary's Hand" and added lots of abbreviations and common phrases to my knowledge bank.

Back soon, I hope.

Oh, yes indeed, Goldie. One quote which didn't comment on the language was $140.

Yesterday I spent a long time trying to find a 16C alphabet with comparable modern letters alongside. It took a long time as all others just gave a single image for each letter. But finally I found just what I needed and will attach it on here in case anyone else out there has need of it.

I am half way through my attempt and plan to continue. At the end I will post what I think I have managed to find, together with the relevant original section for the many corrections it will surely need.

Perhaps today I will also see if I can find common phrases, similar to that which Mckha quoted "Item yd (and) it is my will that John". I see there are several instances of just a single letter being used and think they might be short forms of simple phrases.

I don't think it is my 12 x g.g.f. as I have yet to see the name of his spouse. Fingers crossed on that one. But I am enjoying the challenge  :D

So, here is the alphabet I mentioned.
Thanks and I shall return,

Well, isn't that strange none of the 4 "translators" I have asked for a quote has told me that it isn't Latin.
He did have a son Thomas, but his death pre-dated the father; not to say that he didn't have one later in his life.  His son John died the same year as his father but later.
Tomorrow I will chop it up into smaller pieces and post a section for help.
I am of very poor sight and unable to attack it myself. Waiting for Cornea transplants yuk!

Thanks, I will return tomorrow.

Good morning everyone,

I have recently bought the Court Probate Record for a Will from 1592 and can read nothing more than the name of the man who I hope will turn out to be my 12xg.g.f. Can anyone please recommend a translation service that is actually in operation at the moment? It seems that both Manchester and Leeds University translation departments are down due to COVID.

Does anyone know if one of our Australian Universities have such a service?

Hopefully I will be able to attach a section of the document for reference.


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Son of William Mortimer of Gomersall
« on: Wednesday 22 January 20 09:06 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Goldie. I can find the year easily, it was the date that had me stumped. Much appreciated and thanks for the explanation on how you managed it.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Son of William Mortimer of Gomersall
« on: Monday 20 January 20 06:05 GMT (UK)  »
 :D Can anyone please tell me if the dates used in Parish Records from the 1600's are in Latin or Old English? I am trying to establish the date on which William, son of William Mortimer of Gomersall was baptised. I hope it says August 1631 or 1632. It is the third one down on the image attached.

Kent Lookup Requests / 1940-1950 Kelly's for Thanet/Kent pls
« on: Tuesday 25 June 19 08:34 BST (UK)  »
If anyone has access to one or all of the above Kelly's directories would you please see if there is a CHANDLER living in Approach Road, Cliftonville. The full name would be appreciated.


Lancashire / Re: Bigamous marriage/divorce proceedings Lancashire WAIN v LOWE
« on: Wednesday 12 June 19 01:40 BST (UK)  »
I don't think the Alice Weins/Ewins arriving in 1928 is the wife of Wilfred Wain.

I think the surname of Ewins on passenger list is correct.    Apart from word 'Nottingham' in the given address I think she was indeed going to Bromley, Kent.   Indexes show an Alice Ewins of right age in Bromley, Kent in 1911 and I suspect it was this lady.


Thanks for picking that Annette. It looks absolutely correct. I did wonder if her husband Arthur had died and she had been in Canada to be with a child but there are no children with them in 1911, and Arthur is still alive in 1939.

She is probably to be found on a shipping list prior to 1928 but after 1911 but I will just accept that she is not 'my' Alice and thank you for your help.


Lancashire / Re: Bigamous marriage/divorce proceedings Lancashire WAIN v LOWE
« on: Wednesday 12 June 19 00:56 BST (UK)  »
Thanks JenB for telling me how to do that. I've received an email from Sarah at RootsChat who is going to do it for me. But I didn't manage to get back to my computer yesterday so will have to crack on and reply to her.

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