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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Monday 12 October 20 11:46 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Sarah. I am an idiot and apologise for the trouble.
Joan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Monday 12 October 20 00:46 BST (UK) »
Attached are the section of the Probate that I have worked on to date, as well as the meagre amount that I have been able to work out - or perhaps guess might be a better word. I find that Wills are written in a very careful hand, whereas this Secretary's Hand is positively dreadful. If it is possible for you to take a look to see if I am on the right track, I would be grateful.Thanks,
Joan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Thursday 08 October 20 09:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Goldie for the additional information. I have downloaded 5½ printed pages this arvo, and now your extra makes it up to 6! I am enjoying it but very little time to spare. I tend to get my nose into anything to do with FH and all else goes out the window. I have my main meal of the day in the middle of the day - today it was 2.45 before I sat down to it 
Crazy or what?
Hopefully I will chat again soon.
Everyone is so very kind and helpful on this Forum.
Joan
Crazy or what? Hopefully I will chat again soon.
Everyone is so very kind and helpful on this Forum.
Joan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Thursday 08 October 20 04:46 BST (UK) »
Yes, Goldie, and still having fun. This morning I have fallen over "The Secretary's Hand" and added lots of abbreviations and common phrases to my knowledge bank.Back soon, I hope.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Thursday 08 October 20 03:10 BST (UK) »
Oh, yes indeed, Goldie. One quote which didn't comment on the language was $140.
Yesterday I spent a long time trying to find a 16C alphabet with comparable modern letters alongside. It took a long time as all others just gave a single image for each letter. But finally I found just what I needed and will attach it on here in case anyone else out there has need of it.
I am half way through my attempt and plan to continue. At the end I will post what I think I have managed to find, together with the relevant original section for the many corrections it will surely need.
Perhaps today I will also see if I can find common phrases, similar to that which Mckha quoted "Item yd (and) it is my will that John". I see there are several instances of just a single letter being used and think they might be short forms of simple phrases.
I don't think it is my 12 x g.g.f. as I have yet to see the name of his spouse. Fingers crossed on that one. But I am enjoying the challenge
So, here is the alphabet I mentioned.
Thanks and I shall return,
Joan
Yesterday I spent a long time trying to find a 16C alphabet with comparable modern letters alongside. It took a long time as all others just gave a single image for each letter. But finally I found just what I needed and will attach it on here in case anyone else out there has need of it.
I am half way through my attempt and plan to continue. At the end I will post what I think I have managed to find, together with the relevant original section for the many corrections it will surely need.
Perhaps today I will also see if I can find common phrases, similar to that which Mckha quoted "Item yd (and) it is my will that John". I see there are several instances of just a single letter being used and think they might be short forms of simple phrases.
I don't think it is my 12 x g.g.f. as I have yet to see the name of his spouse. Fingers crossed on that one. But I am enjoying the challenge
So, here is the alphabet I mentioned.
Thanks and I shall return,
Joan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Wednesday 07 October 20 07:24 BST (UK) »
Well, isn't that strange none of the 4 "translators" I have asked for a quote has told me that it isn't Latin.
He did have a son Thomas, but his death pre-dated the father; not to say that he didn't have one later in his life. His son John died the same year as his father but later.
Tomorrow I will chop it up into smaller pieces and post a section for help.
I am of very poor sight and unable to attack it myself. Waiting for Cornea transplants yuk!
Thanks, I will return tomorrow.
OzzieJoan
He did have a son Thomas, but his death pre-dated the father; not to say that he didn't have one later in his life. His son John died the same year as his father but later.
Tomorrow I will chop it up into smaller pieces and post a section for help.
I am of very poor sight and unable to attack it myself. Waiting for Cornea transplants yuk!
Thanks, I will return tomorrow.
OzzieJoan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin to English translation of 16th century document
« on: Wednesday 07 October 20 03:42 BST (UK) »
Good morning everyone,
I have recently bought the Court Probate Record for a Will from 1592 and can read nothing more than the name of the man who I hope will turn out to be my 12xg.g.f. Can anyone please recommend a translation service that is actually in operation at the moment? It seems that both Manchester and Leeds University translation departments are down due to COVID.
Does anyone know if one of our Australian Universities have such a service?
Hopefully I will be able to attach a section of the document for reference.
Thanks,
OzzieJoan
I have recently bought the Court Probate Record for a Will from 1592 and can read nothing more than the name of the man who I hope will turn out to be my 12xg.g.f. Can anyone please recommend a translation service that is actually in operation at the moment? It seems that both Manchester and Leeds University translation departments are down due to COVID.
Does anyone know if one of our Australian Universities have such a service?
Hopefully I will be able to attach a section of the document for reference.
Thanks,
OzzieJoan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Son of William Mortimer of Gomersall
« on: Wednesday 22 January 20 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Goldie. I can find the year easily, it was the date that had me stumped. Much appreciated and thanks for the explanation on how you managed it.
Regards,
Joan
Regards,
Joan
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Son of William Mortimer of Gomersall
« on: Monday 20 January 20 06:05 GMT (UK) » Can anyone please tell me if the dates used in Parish Records from the 1600's are in Latin or Old English? I am trying to establish the date on which William, son of William Mortimer of Gomersall was baptised. I hope it says August 1631 or 1632. It is the third one down on the image attached.OzzieJoan