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Antrim / William James BRADLEY/ Catherine Mc AVOY marriage
« on: Thursday 05 November 20 10:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,  ???
Two questions please, if anyone is able to assist.

Is there such a thing as a 1939 Register for NI? If there is, how can I access it, please?

I am looking for a marriage between William James BRADLEY (that is how the name is spelled on the birth certificate of their daughter Kathleen) and Catherine Mc AVOY. Kathleen was born 10 Feb 1926 and I have no idea if she had siblings. At the time of her birth, her parents were living at 11 Welsh Street and she was registered in Belfast Urban District 6.

The result of a search has given me a marriage in March 1919 In Urban No.12 R.C. between William James BRADY (not BRADLEY) and Catherine MC AVOY Registration No.1919/B1/2336/7/154
I don't understand the relevance of the numbers in that registration. Obviously, 1919 the year, and possibly B1 denotes the first quarter? As the names of the groom do not match how certain can I be that this is the couple that I am looking for? If I send for the full certificate, will it get me any nearer to my objective?

As a 2˝year +/- was allowed, I gave 1923 as the year to base the search on. After pointing out the difference in the name of the groom a second search was done based on 1926 and that still came up with only the same marriage.

This is the first time I have had occasion to delve into the records of Northern Ireland and I am not finding them easy :( so any help would be very much appreciated.

OzzieJoan

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Hi,  ???
Two questions please, if anyone is able to assist.

Is there such a thing as a 1939 Register for NI? If there is, how can I access it, please?

I am looking for a marriage between William James BRADLEY (that is how the name is spelled on the birth certificate of their daughter Kathleen) and Catherine Mc AVOY. Kathleen was born 10 Feb 1926 and I have no idea if she had siblings. At the time of her birth, her parents were living at 11 Welsh Street and she was registered in Belfast Urban District 6.

The result of a search has given me a marriage in March 1919 In Urban No.12 R.C. between William James BRADY (not BRADLEY) and Catherine MC AVOY Registration No.1919/B1/2336/7/154
I don't understand the relevance of the numbers in that registration. Obviously, 1919 the year, and possibly B1 denotes the first quarter? As the names of the groom do not match how certain can I be that this is the couple that I am looking for? If I send for the full certificate, will it get me any nearer to my objective?

As a 2˝year +/- was allowed, I gave 1923 as the year to base the search on. After pointing out the difference in the name of the groom a second search was done based on 1926 and that still came up with only the same marriage.

This is the first time I have had occasion to delve into the records of Northern Ireland and I am not finding them easy :( so any help would be very much appreciated.

OzzieJoan


   

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Ireland / 1939 Register
« on: Thursday 05 November 20 07:57 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know if a Register similar to the one for England and Wales, was produced by NI in or around that year, please? If so, where can it be found?
Thanks,
OzzieJoan

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Horsleydown - so are you saying that this John NORTHEND could be the stepfather of said Thomas and not necessarily the father of his wife, Johanne BEST?
Another avenue to follow, then. Thanks for that.


Yes; as it was used at the time, the term father-in-law can have both meanings.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Probate
« on: Tuesday 13 October 20 21:24 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Bookbox. After staring at this thing so long, it's strange to see it written in modern language.

I will have to do more research to see what happened to his children. His first-born, as far as I can tell was Elizabeth and she doesn't seem to be named either.

As the Will was written in January 1591/2, and probate done in June 1592, his wife must have died very soon after Thos. I will see if I  can find her death. Also more about John Northend.

Frustrating is an understatement Goldie. But the challenge is what keeps us going with FH.

I am grateful for the help you have both given.
Joan

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Horsleydown - so are you saying that this John NORTHEND could be the stepfather of said Thomas and not necessarily the father of his wife, Johanne BEST? If so, I can't see any way to sort it.

OzzieJoan

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin Probate
« on: Tuesday 13 October 20 09:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
This is my continuation of the translation that I have already had so much assistance with.

Attached is the Probate section in Latin of the Will of one Thomas Mortimer which I would like help with, please. I am hoping that someone can find the name of his wife in amongst the few lines below, commencing after the words "w(i)th others".

Thanks and fingers crossed,
OzzieJoan

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Thank you Goldie and Horsleydown. Between you, and my own meagre efforts, I now have everything down to the Probate, which you say is in Latin. And still no nearer to finding any connection to my family. Definitely not the 12 x g.g.f. I was hoping for as his wife's maiden name would be BEST, not NORTHEND - the name of Thomas's father in law.

However, I have others of the same name (Thos.Mortimer) around the same time and will see if I can find a connection to one of them.

As suggested by you, Goldie, I am just about to post under the title Latin Probate as a new topic to see if someone can translate the Probate part for me.

As far as I am concerned, this topic can be closed. Do I do that myself or is it done by the Moderator, please?

With gratitude and thanks,
Joan

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Hi again, now that Sarah has kindly unlocked my topic after I stupidly locked it, I will post a further section for scrutiny.
However, I will not have time to chop it into pieces and Post until quite late in the afternoon tomorrow,Tuesday in Oz. 
The first third of it hasn't confirmed, or otherwise, that this is the Probate for my 12 x g.g.f. so it's Press Forward, as the Mortimer Motto says.   ;D
I will be back soon.
Joan

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