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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Southampton - Where are these places?
« on: Thursday 14 May 20 17:46 BST (UK)  »
So I'm looking at the Alners who lived at 12 St. Mary's Place in 1861, 1871 and 1881.

My son has a DNA match with an Ancestry tree that has Alners in it.  Still doesn't explain what Mary was doing in Southampton.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Southampton - Where are these places?
« on: Thursday 14 May 20 16:11 BST (UK)  »
The mother was Mary Smoothy born in Halstead in 1837.  She came from quite a good family (farmers) and in 1861 was a governess living with her aunt on her aunt's farm in Halstead.  Her sister married well and in her father's will (he died prematurely in 1841) she was left a lot of money that I don't think she ever saw.

Certainly, by 1871 she was living in Kent as s dyer and seems to have been more or less on her uppers.  She assumed a married name (no husband was ever in evidence) but it was just her and her son.  She died, an alcoholic in 1883 in the workhouse.

The son (born Thomas Humphrey Smoothy) was my late husband's great grandfather and was known as Thomas Humphrey England (England being the name Mary assumed after his birth).
He went to New Zealand shortly after Mary's death.


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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Southampton - Where are these places?
« on: Thursday 14 May 20 15:54 BST (UK)  »
Thank you!

It's a mystery why she was in Southampton at all.  She was born and lived in Halstead in Essex and as far as I know knew nobody in Hampshire.

Her son's birth certificate says 'dependent on parents' under the mother's name.  Father's name is blank.
I was hoping that I could see who lived in these places in the 1861 and 1871 census returns and it might give me a clue.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Southampton - Where are these places?
« on: Thursday 14 May 20 14:20 BST (UK)  »
I have a birth certificate from 1866.  The child was born at 1 Dorset Terrace, Southampton and the mother's residence is given as 12 Saint Mary's Place, Southampton.

I can't find either of these places on any maps.

The mother was on her own and the child illegitimate. 

Can anyone help me please?

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Here's the back of the card.


I have Sampsons from east London in my tree.

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Alas I don't have access to a scanner but I've dug the original out and it was taken by Griffiths in Bow London E3.
I can just about make out the words on the front with my magnifying glass and it says something like The Photographic (something).  The logo is a dark K in a light circle.

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No, definitely not Catholic.

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Yes, no clue.  I think it might be a relative so any date pointers would help.

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Thanks Carol.

I wonder if there's a database of photographers' backdrops?  It would help me possibly place the place it was taken.

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