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Armed Forces / Scottish Rifles - Numbers
« on: Saturday 25 February 12 10:50 GMT (UK)  »
My Grandfather, James Irvine joined the Scottish Rifles on 5th Jan 1899.  I have his army records which show his number as 6404.

A second cousin in Australia has a couple of medals which he thinks belonged to my Grandfather.  The only thing is, they have "RX4-199757 PTE.J.IRVINE A.S.C." inscribed round the perimiter.  He has a hand written note that is in the same box which can be tied back to my Grandfather.

His army records show that he was in South Africa & India up to 1907, then transferred to the reserves.  He then went back in 1914 an was sent to France, and discharged in 1916.

There is no mention anywhere in his records of the numbers on the medals, but everything else ties in. Are they his, do you think?

Anybody got any ideas as to how to solve the puzzle?

Jim Irvine

Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Helen Irvine - Brechin
« on: Friday 10 February 12 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Ross,  (and ev for info)

I've sent you a PM with my email address.


Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Helen Irvine - Brechin
« on: Wednesday 08 February 12 21:43 GMT (UK)  »
That's an absolutely brilliant photo which fills in yet another bit of the puzzle.

Where did Allan & Euphemia marry? How many children did they have?

It seems that Helen had a few illigitimate children.
William MOUATT
James IRVINE (My Grandfather)
Isabella IRVINE

Who was David Wallace Irvine Jnr's father? Was it David Wallace, Allan's half brother?

My father was also David Wallace Irvine, and my youngest Daughter is Dawn Wallace Irvine, but would have been David if she'd been a boy!

I'd love to hear more of the Australian family and who else is in the picture.


Donegal / Thomas Dorian - Bridget Campbell
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 22:05 BST (UK)  »
I started a topic in 2008, see below -,278602.msg1622338.html#msg1622338

Since then, I've found out a wee bit more information.

For example, it is Bridget Campbell and not Elizabeth as I first thought.

I've also found a record in the Scottish census of 1861 for Stonehaven, which gives -

Bridget - head, age 44, born Ireland
Nancy - Daughter, age 21, born Ireland
John - Son, age 19, born Ireland
Charles - Son, age 16, born Ireland
Thomas - Son, age 13, born Linlithgowshire - there is no such county in Scotland!
Mary - Daughter , age 8, born Stonehaven.

No mention of Thomas senior. However, on Bridget's death record in 1869, it states that she is married to Thomas Dorian, labourer. This asumes Thomas is still alive otherwise she would be described as "widow of. . ." I can find no death record for Thomas anywhere in Scotland.

I then started looking at the old parish records for Linlithgow (town) area of Scotland for a birth record of Thomas junior, without success. I then wondered if perhaps the family were of the Catholic faith since they came from Ireland, and when I looked at the Catholic archives, BINGO, there he was. There is a record of his birth and baptism it the records of St Francis Xavier's church in Falkirk!

This now leads on to the next questions -

What happened to Thomas senior? Did he go back to Ireland after the death of Bridget, or since Bridget is described as head of the household in the 1861 census, had he "disapeared" prior to this?

My g-grandmother was Agnes Ann Dorian, who would have been the same age as Nancy. Are Agnes and Nancy the same person?

Is there anywhere on line that I can search the Irish Catholic records? I am almost sure that they came originally from Letterkenny in Donegal.

Any help and advice are most welcome.



Aberdeenshire / Re: Mutch & Buyers
« on: Monday 04 July 11 21:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Andrew!

I had not seen that site. A quick look reveals additional details about my lines, designated R1 and A27 on the site, .
I'll join the site. I guess that's the best place to discuss any discrecpancies between the information I have and that on the site. I also have a few photos I can post.



My Wife is also decended through the R1 - A27 line.   From Alexander (A27), to John, b 1845, to Elspet Chrighton Mutch, b 1870, who was her G-Grandmother.

I'd be interested in any information you have on any of the Mutch side.


Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Cemetry Maps
« on: Tuesday 31 May 11 17:30 BST (UK)  »
Someone at the Tay Valley FHS may know if such a map exists.

Worth a try anyway -

Kincardineshire / Re: Royal connection - Middleton
« on: Saturday 21 May 11 22:08 BST (UK)  »
Quote - Has Kincardineshire officially ceased to exist?

I'm afraid it has!  Kincardineshire disappeared into "Kincardine & Deeside district" of Grampian region in the 1970's, then when Grampian region disappeared, we're now left with Aberdeenshire. More's the pity!

A St Cyrus loon!

Kincardineshire / Re: Royal connection - Middleton
« on: Sunday 15 May 11 16:27 BST (UK)  »
When I was about 5, we lived next door to a LARGE family of Middletons at the farm of Millplough. The father was Archie, whose wife went on her "annual holidays" to Charleton maternity hospital.  I seem to remember that some of them turned out to be "characters"

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