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Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help! - Completed
« on: Saturday 11 February 23 07:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for this Jon. And everyone else for their help. I have a few snippets of extra information now but it does seem that the bottom line is that the wills no longer exist.

Thank you all for your help.

Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Sunday 05 February 23 17:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jon_ni,

Such a shame. However, that does give me a rough date for her death which is something.


Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Sunday 05 February 23 14:05 GMT (UK)  »

I am sorry but I seem to have missed the last few messages.

I'm not surprised that William didn't leave any money, later evidence suggests money problems. I had seen that notice about Ann's second marriage but thank you anyway.

I hadn't seen the information about D'Arcy Mahon's will - thank you for that. Nor had I seen any reference to Ann's will. Do you know if it is possible to see that will?

Thanks again and sorry for the delay in replying.

Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Saturday 21 January 23 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jonw65 for this, very interesting. I didn't expect him to have much but given that he had quite a few servants and "held" a total of 69 acres in the 1821 census I thought maybe a little more.

The administration was seven years after his death. Perhaps it was thought he had more money than he had and that's why the administration took place for what ended up being such a small amount. His financial position does appear to have been complicated - his wife (who isn't with him on the 1821 census) had money and years later she and her second husband entered a long case about it in the House of Lords

Thanks again,

Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Friday 20 January 23 15:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Wexflyer,

I shall keep my pecker up  :)

You never know in this game do you, brick walls of 40 odd years suddenly crash down - not very often though I have to admit!


Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Friday 20 January 23 15:06 GMT (UK)  »

Sorry I meant Maggsie sent me the National Archives link not PRONI and I've been looking on there but to no avail. I have also just been looking at what Jon-ni has posted and it seems unlikely that anything beyond the index has survived. To be honest the actual index is pretty badly damaged itself.


Ireland / Re: Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Friday 20 January 23 14:48 GMT (UK)  »

Thank you for this. Maggsie sent the PRONI details in a PM but I had no luck there. Looking at what you have sent me it does seem very unlikely that I'm going to find something but I shall have a good read and hopefully get a clearer picture.


Ireland / Prerogative Grants of Ireland - Help!
« on: Friday 20 January 23 10:31 GMT (UK)  »
Good morning,

I'm looking for someone who knows about these, what they are etc.

On Ancestry there is the following: "Prerogative Grants of Ireland 1821-1830 Vol 16 F-M" In it is my 5x great grandpa. It lists his name, then the number 162, then either the capital letter J or I - they appear indistinguishable.

My first question is does anyone know what the number and initial mean/refer to? The document is so damaged that you can't read the head of the column.

The overall title for this selection of records as named by Ancestry is "Ireland, Indexes to Wills, Probate Administration, Marriage Bonds & Licences 1591-1866"

At the top of the page with gramps on it says in Ancestry's type "Administrative Grants"

So my second question is does this mean he didn't leave a will (slightly odd as he was a barrister) and that someone/some organisation has granted administration of his estate to someone?

And the third and final question: if that is the case are these records held anywhere? Are there details of who administered the estate and how it was administered? Basically where do I go from her? I doubt very much that it was substantial, I have a feeling he rather let money through his grasp.  Ok it was three final questions  :) sorry

Hope this makes sense and that someone can help

Roscommon / Re: Where or What is Camlin?
« on: Friday 06 January 23 09:03 GMT (UK)  »
Welcome to Rootschat Cathy

and thank you and Kiltaglassan for the information. A visit to Camlin is on my bucket list. Maybe one day.....

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