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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Lancashire look up please - Blackburn?
« on: Friday 10 October 08 20:48 BST (UK)  »
If Wendy Holliday gets an automatic notification of this message then please contact Glenn who may have found her a (living) relative.

Glenn is at

gaataylor [at] blueyonder [dot] co [dot] uk

Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Lancashire look up please - Blackburn?
« on: Thursday 04 October 07 22:33 BST (UK)  »
Me again,

Going back to the top of this thread, there is a James & Lettice FISH living at Bottoms in Darwen in 1851. Could this be the same couple as you don't give ages?


Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Lancashire look up please - Blackburn?
« on: Thursday 04 October 07 22:23 BST (UK)  »

It's possibly me that's responsible for the "massive tree" of FISH from Darwen and Blackburn. I can help out with the Fish FISH and Shepherd FISH mentioned above but I prefer email so that I can send PDf files if necessary.


gaataylor [at] blueyonder [dot] co [dot] uk

Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1861 lookup - Holden - Darwen
« on: Tuesday 21 November 06 22:00 GMT (UK)  »
I have encountered many instances in Darwen where a male child's forename was what would now be considered a surname. Examples include:

Wellington WOODCOCK

and tangentially in my own family tree


I'm sure that this was widespread in Lancashire generally. I once met a Harrison CLEGG, a Wright SHAW and, of course, not fogetting that the composer Harrison BIRTWISTLE comes from Accrington.

Glenn Taylor

Lancashire / Re: Marriage: St Mary Church, Blackburn
« on: Tuesday 21 November 06 21:39 GMT (UK)  »

Here is the family in 1841:

HO107/503/5 F13 P15 Ewood ?Mill
Matthew FISH   50   Labourer in ?foundry
Ellen   50      
John FISH   25
Molinder   20
Mary Ann   3   
Hannah   8 mo

The parents in 1851:
F692 Ewood, Livesey
Matthew FISH   H   M   65   Handloom weaver   Lower Darwen
Ellen   W   M   67   Handloom weaver   Blackburn

John & Melinda/Molinder do not appear to have been in Darwen or Blackburn in 1851. Keep in mind that Ewood is about 0.5 mile north of the current Darwen/Blackburn boundary and that Lower Darwen (pre 1880-ish) included Ewood and reached about a mile or so into current Darwen to slightly south of St Cuthbert's Church [Junction of Earnsdale Rd and Blackburn Rd].

I have extensive data about Darwen FISHes and am happy to look through my files if given a specific question. I don't check this site very often and so a direct email is more reliable. I can be reached via:


(provided you make the obvious substitutions for [at] and [dot] )


Glenn Taylor


I suspect that the 1841 Lettice that you found is the one in Darwen.

At the risk of sounding like I'm giving egg-sucking advice, did you try Laetitia as well as Letitia?



Hi Sharon,

No problem.

For what it's worth, I can confirm that James & Lettice are NOT in Darwen in the 1841 Census (as I have extracted all the FISH from all the Darwen censuses). I haven't extracted FISH from 1841 Blackburn Census because the lack of relationships and birthplaces makes it a lot of effort for little gain that can be confirmed.

Changing focus...

There is a VARLEY/FISH connexion in Darwen in 1871:
Sarah VARLEY (b.~1792) with daughter Hannah FISH nee VARLEY (b.~1816).

I am also in email contact with someone pursuing Darwen COTTAM family lines.




I think these are the ones you are looking for (1851):

HO107/2259   (Blackburn East)

Folio 52  49 Ainsworth St
Richard FISH, Boarder, 9, Scholar, Blackburn
Ann FISH, Boarder, 5, Scholar, Blackburn
Letitia FISH, Boarder, 2, Scholar, Blackburn
[Boarding with KENYON family]

I have extensive data about the Darwen FISH families so do get back to me if your researches move in this direction.

Glenn Taylor
(Bristol &   ex-Darwen)

PS. I don't check this board often and I'm better emailed via:

gaataylor {at} blueyonder {dot} co {dot} uk

Lancashire / Re: Birth of Deborah Taylor - Blackburn
« on: Saturday 30 April 05 14:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Matty,

Glad to be of help.

Now one remaining question do I send to Southport for these Births and if so will the dates that you have given me be enough information for them to find the birth?

Don't bother with Southport. Send your request to the local Registry Office in Blackburn (Jubilee St, Blackburn, BB1 1EP), make a cheque payable to "Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council" (7 is it?) and ask them for the birth cert. of Deborah Taylor, born 1838, parents Roger & Ann Taylor. Blackburn are VERY good at fielding requests like "Thomas Fish, born 1842, father James".

In any case, irrespective of the surnames that I've been looking for I've noticed hardly any Deborahs (of any surname) in passing. This is unusual, to my mind, as it is an Old Testament name and these were quite common at the time. This suggests that "your" Deborah [possibly mine too, for all I know] is likely to be the ONLY Deborah for the year.



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